Mirelle
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Re: This really depresses me
May I support those views, which are precisely my own.
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Honda Classic Carnage - Power Boating
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Rob_Webb
Active member
Zoo
The Solent has become an (ugly) zoo. It is out of control and a truly awful thing to be a part of now. One half of me is relieved and doesn't care a jot because, as some of you know, I am off to New Zealand to get some space. But the other half of me is really sad at what it has become, especially because not everyone has the option to escape quite so easily.
Please don't give up on it and continue all the complaining and canvassing - in the hope that if and when I do ever return it hasn't completed the transformation into a watersports theme park full of idiots.
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The Solent has become an (ugly) zoo. It is out of control and a truly awful thing to be a part of now. One half of me is relieved and doesn't care a jot because, as some of you know, I am off to New Zealand to get some space. But the other half of me is really sad at what it has become, especially because not everyone has the option to escape quite so easily.
Please don't give up on it and continue all the complaining and canvassing - in the hope that if and when I do ever return it hasn't completed the transformation into a watersports theme park full of idiots.
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tome
New member
Re: Zoo
Rob
I sail the Solent all year round and don't think it's as dire as you suggest - certainly not out of control. I agree that there are many more boats around than there were 20 years ago, and the emergence of flotillas such as Sunsail have altered the scene somewhat.
My personal experience is that people are mostly considerate (this goes for both power and sail) with very few exceptions. Once you get to know the place you learn to avoid Cowes Yacht Haven on a Saturday night unless you're prepared to put up with some late-night boisterous behaviour. There are plenty of alternatives. I shall continue to base my boat here and to enjoy this superb cruising ground for the next few years.
Incidentally, on busy weekends I head for Yarmouth/Lymington and then return to Chichester via the needles and St Catherines point. This is a great sail in the right conditions which we can usually do in less than 6 hours. Always surprises me how few other boats I see round the back of the island.
Regards
Tom
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Rob
I sail the Solent all year round and don't think it's as dire as you suggest - certainly not out of control. I agree that there are many more boats around than there were 20 years ago, and the emergence of flotillas such as Sunsail have altered the scene somewhat.
My personal experience is that people are mostly considerate (this goes for both power and sail) with very few exceptions. Once you get to know the place you learn to avoid Cowes Yacht Haven on a Saturday night unless you're prepared to put up with some late-night boisterous behaviour. There are plenty of alternatives. I shall continue to base my boat here and to enjoy this superb cruising ground for the next few years.
Incidentally, on busy weekends I head for Yarmouth/Lymington and then return to Chichester via the needles and St Catherines point. This is a great sail in the right conditions which we can usually do in less than 6 hours. Always surprises me how few other boats I see round the back of the island.
Regards
Tom
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No, but my point is, society would not tolerate, the law would not allow F1 racing on the public highway, why should we be subjected to such dangers on what is a stretch of water used by a lot of people for recreation.
Your comment regards speed cameras etc, is probably not far away. How long before a young family out in their Seawych or Shrimper get hit by one year, with the result being a fatality?
How does Honda feel about the event, last weekend? After all they want publicity, do they want to associate their name with what could become very ugly?
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Your comment regards speed cameras etc, is probably not far away. How long before a young family out in their Seawych or Shrimper get hit by one year, with the result being a fatality?
How does Honda feel about the event, last weekend? After all they want publicity, do they want to associate their name with what could become very ugly?
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Twister_Ken
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Hear hear. nm
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Evadne
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Re: Zoo, it is not
I couldn't agree more with you Tom. Going to Cowes on August bank holiday then moaning about the whole solent being crowded is like driving in London at 5pm and complaining that the whole of England is always congested. We were out on the Sunday, a reach down to the Nab tower and back via Bembridge ledge between high tides, and it could have been a Wednesday in April for the numbers of boats around. You are always going to get inconsiderate idiots in life, the trick is to try not to let them wind you up and spoil your fun. I know, it's not easy at 4 a.m. when they're into the second verse of "Delilah", but nobody goes to Cowes on a weekend for peace and solitude, surely?
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I couldn't agree more with you Tom. Going to Cowes on August bank holiday then moaning about the whole solent being crowded is like driving in London at 5pm and complaining that the whole of England is always congested. We were out on the Sunday, a reach down to the Nab tower and back via Bembridge ledge between high tides, and it could have been a Wednesday in April for the numbers of boats around. You are always going to get inconsiderate idiots in life, the trick is to try not to let them wind you up and spoil your fun. I know, it's not easy at 4 a.m. when they're into the second verse of "Delilah", but nobody goes to Cowes on a weekend for peace and solitude, surely?
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Twister_Ken
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Honda PR value
Good remark about what Honda feel. Why don't we ask their PR manager. If I can find his e-mail address I'll send him a reference to this thread. When the time comes to replace my trusty Civic, I might not think Honda next time.
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Good remark about what Honda feel. Why don't we ask their PR manager. If I can find his e-mail address I'll send him a reference to this thread. When the time comes to replace my trusty Civic, I might not think Honda next time.
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Peppermint
New member
Re: It falls to me then,
to be the defender of other peoples freedoms.
This race is as much part of the Cowes tradition as the Admirals Cup. That indeed is part of the problem. The world has turned, both the Solent and the boats involved have changed, the race course remains the same.
I would hazard a guess that you stood less chance of been hit by a boat involved in this sort of racing, at least in good viz, than you do on a normal weekend. A racing helm is unlikely to put it on autopilot while he pops to the loo, or be distracted in any other way. His level of skills may well be a little higher too.
The evident wash from the racing boats was no problem for my 25 footer. Again the wash generated by racing powerboats, which work efficiently, is as nothing compared to the average Sunseeker passing by.
I would have thought that by moving the short race programme to the west, (you could still arrange to use the Squadron Line for the Cowes Torquay Cowes start finish) avoiding the use of navigation marks as part of the course, improving communications about course and times and improving the stewarding of both course and spectators, this race has a future.
The freedoms of the power boat loonies are as much part of the free use of the sea's as dinghy camping in the Walton Backwaters, providing they, said PBL's are prepared to work with the rest of us.
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to be the defender of other peoples freedoms.
This race is as much part of the Cowes tradition as the Admirals Cup. That indeed is part of the problem. The world has turned, both the Solent and the boats involved have changed, the race course remains the same.
I would hazard a guess that you stood less chance of been hit by a boat involved in this sort of racing, at least in good viz, than you do on a normal weekend. A racing helm is unlikely to put it on autopilot while he pops to the loo, or be distracted in any other way. His level of skills may well be a little higher too.
The evident wash from the racing boats was no problem for my 25 footer. Again the wash generated by racing powerboats, which work efficiently, is as nothing compared to the average Sunseeker passing by.
I would have thought that by moving the short race programme to the west, (you could still arrange to use the Squadron Line for the Cowes Torquay Cowes start finish) avoiding the use of navigation marks as part of the course, improving communications about course and times and improving the stewarding of both course and spectators, this race has a future.
The freedoms of the power boat loonies are as much part of the free use of the sea's as dinghy camping in the Walton Backwaters, providing they, said PBL's are prepared to work with the rest of us.
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Neraida
New member
Re: Zoo, it is not
I don't think anyone was complaining about Cowes or the Solent being busy over the bank holiday weekend rather the danger from powerboats doing 80+ knots round the island and that many boats were unaware of the event, without any notification from CG on VHF etc. Of course Cowes was heaving over the BHW, we'd have gone to Newtown or picked up a mooring on the Beaulieu if we wanted peace and quiet, my addition to the often inconsiderate Sunsail antics mentioned were only an observation. During Cowes week it was far worse and a good time was had by all.
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I don't think anyone was complaining about Cowes or the Solent being busy over the bank holiday weekend rather the danger from powerboats doing 80+ knots round the island and that many boats were unaware of the event, without any notification from CG on VHF etc. Of course Cowes was heaving over the BHW, we'd have gone to Newtown or picked up a mooring on the Beaulieu if we wanted peace and quiet, my addition to the often inconsiderate Sunsail antics mentioned were only an observation. During Cowes week it was far worse and a good time was had by all.
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