Holland Regulations

[ONAWAY]

I've recently purchased a yacht in Holland and intend to sail her back to the UK this summer.

I am after some advise on official documents I should carry as the vessel is currently lying in the Iselmeer. Anyone know a handy web site which details this.

I intend to move the yacht fron Lelystad via Amsterdam and Ijmuiden to the sea, then make my way down the coast to France. Anyone offer experience of the passage.

Regards,

Nick.

 

[jamesjermain]

The RYA website, rya.org.uk, has details of th epaperwork you will need. Because the first part of the trip will be in Dutch waterways, you may find you need a ICC endorsed for European waterways - CINVEN. You will also need registration documents (Pt1 or SSR), VAT receipts, insurance documents and passports for all members of the crew.

JJ

 

[ean_p]

Hi Nick
we bought in Holland a couple of years ago and did the reverse of your trip.....had no boat specific paperwork at all though were told that we should have carried the dutch book detailing the rules etc of the inland waterways...its the law though not much use to you by all accounts as its in dutch (as it would be!)....insurance and passports.....excellent , truly excellent . Oh to be back soon and more besides....

 

[Kurrawong_Kid]

You should carry the Dutch Almanak-vol 1-in Dutch! The R.Y.A. will tell you whether an I.C.C. with CEVNI rules endorsement is essential. Brian Navins book is a great help because it lists the opening time of the bridges and locks. You'll certainly need to know what time the Orangesluis and bridge open to get from the Markemeer to the North Sea Canal--doesn't open in the rush hours if I remember right. You will also have to deposit a Sheningen(if that's how you spell it) form when you leave stating who you've taken out of Holland with you to the Immigration people-via the lock keeper at Imuiden?
Have a good trip.

 

[david_bagshaw]

To add to others,
The Rya will help with the paperwork detail, worth the sub for that alone.

if over 15 mtr , carry coastal skipper or above, or do its equivelent in Dutch!!!

Have fun



David
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[ccscott49]

Dunno the regs, but the trip, be very careful, near the entrance to Rotterdam, the ships go in, in batches and it's quite daunting, do not forget to report to Rotterdam traffic on the vHF to tell them you are crossing, if it's foggy, take extra care. If you don't have radar, I would be tempted to wait until the fog clears, it's that bad. The entrance also to antwerp, the wester scheede, again it's like a motorway of ships, apart from that, it's flat and uninteresting all the way down. Breskens is a nice little harbour, to spend the nifght with a great fish restaurant, but be careful of the entrance, the tide sweeps past at a fair rate.

 

[kingfisher]

Standing mast route

Routing

Either go out at Ijmuiden (dead ugly marina), and go via the coast with an overnight at Flushing or Terneuzen (much nicer than Breskens, but only if boat draws less than 1m5 for Flushing and is less than 12m LOA for TZ). Next stop Oostend, and then Ramsgate

or Nieuwpoort-Duinkerke-Dover

Other option:

Take the standing mast route (http://www.staandemast.nl/), much less weather bound, but takes longer, is more idylic. Your choice.

Dutch regulations
Wateralmanac I&II: I is for legal reasons: you need a recent copy of the legioslation on board, never mind that it is in Dutch and that your Swahili language skills are better. II contains the opening timesof bridges and locks.

CEVNI licence needed if boat can go faster than 15 km/h, or is longer than 20m

VHF licence needed if VHF on board. Same for DSC

Flares, fire extinguyisher, pfd #crew+1, life ring, bucket, hammer (not kidding, allthough they never checked this).

Proof of ownership, third party insurance (!!!!!!!)

BTW: in Dutch inland waters, professional ships ALWAYS have right of way over recreational boats!!!

Group of people on the pontoon: skipper is the one with the toolbox.
http://sirocco31.tripod.com

 

[vyv_cox]

Brian Navin's book (although very useful) is out of date in some cases and doesn't go into the detail required for many others. Part II is issued annually and although in Dutch, most of the tables of opening times are easy to understand.

 

[airbubble]

If yacht is over 15 m loa, you'll need ICC-dayskipper, otherwise nothing required.
Every boat must carry ALMANAK 1 - rules of the road. ALMANAK 2 has all lock and bridges opening details and all inland waterways details, all in Dutch, but therefore is usefull.
Bill of Sale and sales contract.
Depending on age of your yacht, proof of VAT status though nobody here will ask for it, UK C&E will. No need for official registration as SSR or even Part1 as far as we are concerned.
No red diesel allowed, big fines and big trouble unless proof fuel was taken on OUTSIDE dutch waters. No exceptions.
VHF license if you have a set, again, big fines.
On leaving Dutch waters, indeed you have to fill in and leave a form with Dutch customs with personal details and passport numbers of all crew plus voyage details. (Schengen Act) Most marina's and Customs offices have linked up and the marina master will provide forms that you just have to deposit in a box, plus keep two copies on board with you. As with most things here, self-regulatory. No reports yet of yachts that got into trouble or arguments because of this scheme.

I'd either go off IJsselmeer Den Helder (Den Oever locks) of IJmuiden. Hug coast till Oostende or Nieuwpoort Belgium, depending on weather, then cross.
Be aware Flemish Banks off Duinkerke are trouble in anything over SW5, you wanna be miles off shore then.

Have fun.

 

[ONAWAY]

Thanks for the advice.

What I had in mind was in May to come out to sea at Ijmuiden then to Schvenigen, I guess Breskens is too far on one daylight passage.

Schvenigen to Breskens via the inside passage. Or outside to Zebrugge

Breskens to Dunkirk. Banks in this area look complex from the chart.

Dunkirk to Boulogne then on to Cherbourg for the summer.

Any advice greatly recieved.

 

[ONAWAY]

Re: Standing mast route

Thanks for the advice.

Do you think Ijmuiden to Flushing is possible on one daylight passage ? The inside passage looks tight on my chart. What do you think ? It may be better to go straight to Zebrugge ?

The banks off Dunkirk look complex. From Zebrugge it may be possible to pass straight by Dunkirk to Boulogne !

How long do you reckon from Amsterdam via the fixed mast route, which route do you recommend, speed rather than scenic !

Any thoughts ?

Regards,

Nick.

 

[airbubble]

hi, only had chance to logon again today.

What I had in mind was in May to come out to sea at Ijmuiden then to Schvenigen, I guess Breskens is too far on one daylight passage.
-yep, days in May a bit short to rely on that, is possible though-

Schvenigen to Breskens via the inside passage. Or outside to Zebrugge
-you cannot go inland at Scheveningen, so I would stay at sea. xing of Nwe Waterweg (Rotterdam) is NO Problem in real life, except perhaps in bad visibility&no radar-

Breskens to Dunkirk. Banks in this area look complex from the chart.
Dunkirk to Boulogne then on to Cherbourg for the summer.
-yep, banks terrible, so i always prefer to be some miles off. I personally do not like Dunkirk, Nieuwpoort a lot better/nicer. Go to airforce-yachtclub (club force-aerienne or something in Fr) and marina. Great YC-restaurant, good marina.
For the next part, I do not like the french (hence Dunkirk also perhaps....) so cannot advice there, again i prefer to stay miles, miles off.
KR