HMS Nottingham driver in court today

[Twister_Ken]

It'll be interesting to see what My Lord Commissioners of the Admiralty do to him. £40million worth of repairs! No wonder insurance premiums have gone up.

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[Aja]

Lords of the Admiralty (LA) : "Can we have some insurance, please?"

Insurance Company (IC): "What kind of boat. Motor or sail?"

LA: "Erm, Motor"

IC: "Any previous accidents or claims?"

LA: "I suppose you would want specific incidents?"

IC: "Yes that would be helpful. For instance if you have received or caused any damage? Do you have a NCD?"

LA: "Not sure about a NCD. We do have a few WMDs, SAMs Subs"

IC: Have you contacted us before? Your not the nutters with that grey painted boat that keeps getting fired at and running aground? Told you before. P*ss off. You've got tax payers for that sort of claim. Good Bye"





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[Captain_Chaos]

This is the guy who, on feeling the ship judder as it hit the rocks, is alleged to have said that he hoped it was only a small boat!!!!

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[aod]

Frankly I feel sorry for the Captain. He wasn't even on the ship when it crashed but my understanding is he has pleaded guilty to not checking the nav before he got off!

Mind you hats off to him for not trying to blame everyone else which is what usualy happens when the top guy/gal comes under fire.

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[NigeCh]

He\'ll get off ...

He's got good connections.

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[StugeronSteve]

I think he was quoted as having said that he was ashamed that his first thought was to hope it was a small boat. If so it takes a lot of guts to admit, I guess that most of us have had less than worthy thoughts in a moment of shock. A small boat would be far less likely to endanger the lives of his 100+? crew than a bloomin great rock.

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[longjohnsadler]

Schadenfreude?

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[bob_tyler]

"Mind you hats off to him for not trying to blame everyone else which is what usualy happens when the top guy/gal comes under fire."

It proves yet again that Naval Officers are usually gentlemen, not like his present bosses at the MOD and No 10.

Glad to see he only got a reprimand.



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[Mirelle]

Fire the Royal Corps of Naval Constructors!

Have you seen the wheelhouse and chart room layout on a Type 42?

I have. It is a recipe for just this sort of accident. No merchant ship has had such an arrangement for a couple of decades.

There is a small wheelhouse, with a folding chart table, and, on the one I saw, a Mark 21 "twiddle the dials and read the lane numbers" Decca (the Andrew were the last users of Decca charts, but even they must have stopped that by now?)

Go aft through an A60 door, turn to starboard through another A60 door, and you are in the small and poky chart room. Reverse the process to get to the wheelhouse again. Don't trip over the sills on the way. A recipe for checking your position quickly and often when in pilotage waters? I think not!

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[DavidP]

Hi

Do you think they have YM or PB1 or 2, just a thought

Dave.

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[Twister_Ken]

Re: Fire the Royal Corps of Naval Constructors!

I trust Her Majesty has asked the Lord High Admiral to pop out and buy some chart plotters at the Southampton Boat Show. Should get a discount for a bulk purchase.

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[jimi]

interesting question, but whuy do'nt they just blow up all these rocks? Channel Islands would be much safer if all the stivcky up bits were blown up to 4 metres below LAT. Save a load of dosh on charts and pilots .. must be cost effective surely?

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[Twister_Ken]

Environmentally friendly too.

1. Big rocks reduced to little rocks = more surface area = more slimy things growing on rocks = more stuff for fish to eat = more fish and fatter fish = an increase in fish stocks = happy fisherman.

2. Fewer wrecks = less pollution, but less surface area for slimy things, etc.

I begin to see a flaw in my argument.

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[Neraida]

Jimi, funny you say that......do you think they could shovel up The Brambles too? Makes sense.

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[billmacfarlane]

Re: He\'ll get off ...

Skipper got off with a reprimand. He's now doing "budgetary planning" which sounds like a large push sideways. He said something interesting after the trial about the sea being an unforgiving master. Sea? I thought his problem was more do do with a lump of land!!!!

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[Twister_Ken]

Budgetary planning

That budgetary planning wouldn't have anything to do with finding a spare £40 million to pay the body shop, would it?

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[tr7v8]

Re: Budgetary planning

Still trying to work out how the hell it all cost £ 40 Mill. Thought a new one could be brought for not much more than that minus all the goodies which could have come off the broken one.
I suspectsome creative accountancy was used, loved to see what bits they reckoned were broke.......

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[penfold]

Re: Budgetary planning

I think the answer to that is everything that got wet! Considering it damn near sank, they've got off pretty lightly.

The grey funnel line seem particularly prone to this brand of goof. in the last five years we've had at least two major sub groundings and one other surface ship gounding that I'm aware of; a type 23 frigate was put on the putty in Scandinavia (Norway I think), a Trident boat onto skelmorlie bank in the Clyde (particularly embarassing, as the Clyde is the home port of the missile subs.), and that idiot who rammed Skye with a T-boat. All in all its a pretty poor show, and an expensive one at that.

cheers,
david

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[pheran]

Re: Budgetary planning

The £36million being bandied about is NOT just the cost of the repairs. It includes the lift home and the cost of the total refit..........which includes new engines(nothing to do with the grounding) Seems that someone had the bright idea that they might just as well get on with it whilst the ship was out of service anyway!!

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[billmacfarlane]

Re: Budgetary planning

Sounds like Peters in Chichester gave him a quote !!!!

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