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BlackPig

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I had to phone home on a resent sail. My mobile was flat, all public phones vanderlised. I asked three 25ish woman if I could make a call from theirI was mobile, and happy to pay. All three had left there mobiles at home! I did not belive them, if I was a woman the phones would have apiered.. It got me thinking (dangerus I know)

Do we help simeler people first. Size, type of boat, race, demagraphic. I personaly help most people if I can, but would aproch a simler person/boat for help first.
 
BlackPig said:
I had to phone home on a resent sail. My mobile was flat, all public phones vanderlised. I asked three 25ish woman if I could make a call from theirI was mobile, and happy to pay. All three had left there mobiles at home! I did not belive them, if I was a woman the phones would have apiered.. It got me thinking (dangerus I know)

Do we help simeler people first. Size, type of boat, race, demagraphic. I personaly help most people if I can, but would aproch a simler person/boat for help first.
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I would like to offer you some help.

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my pc has a spellchecker with firefox but the laptop uses explora and does not have one. Content more important to me than spelling. If I worried then I would not post anything. (see posting by the dislexic that got upset.) I dont care.
 
BlackPig said:
my pc has a spellchecker with firefox but the laptop uses explora and does not have one. Content more important to me than spelling. If I worried then I would not post anything. (see posting by the dislexic that got upset.) I dont care.
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I guess some people just don't want to be helped. Do you want to borrow my phone?
 
LJS - you are being more than a teensy bit unfair. The forum is, after all, best served by helping each other.
 
My view on the op's question is that generally he/she is correct and that people are often reluctant to help others that they don't percieve some commonality. Thankfully this isn't always the case and many of us help others regardless. Mind you I have occaisionaly (gok if that was spelled/t correctly) thought twice before helping out. The last time was with a pair of brand new auto lifejackets which I loaned to a complete stranger who was about to go out in a powerful ski type boat without any. I thought it out and decided the potential loss of life versus the potential loss of a few pounds was worth it.

FWIW I woudl have let you use my phone.
 
BlackPig said:
I had to phone home on a resent sail. My mobile was flat, all public phones vanderlised. I asked three 25ish woman if I could make a call from theirI was mobile, and happy to pay. All three had left there mobiles at home! I did not belive them, if I was a woman the phones would have apiered.. It got me thinking (dangerus I know)

Do we help simeler people first. Size, type of boat, race, demagraphic. I personaly help most people if I can, but would aproch a simler person/boat for help first.
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I think there is a subtle difference between offering help and asking for help, I can understand a reluctance to hand a mobile phone over to a total stranger, how were they to know you would not just legit with the phone.
Unfortunate way of the world these days that you do have to be wary all the time but I like to think in most circumstances I will offer help if I can.
 
I tend to think look for a group of adults preferably males in a busy highstreet area if i need to ask a favour.


Asking a woman could be percieved as innocent or nieve at a push if in an open area and busy area so they can see your not trying anything and they have ample options to call on someone else walking by if they feel a need. It would make them uncomfortable so thats why regardless of their demographics id chose almost anyone else.

I would never approach anyone who has just pulled up with loud "ganksta" music blasting from their very expensive cars. You might see something like a powered substance in a little plastic bag being stuck into your hand!


I know this might just sound bad though if i see someone on foot who could fit the same description aa above again id cross over to avoid them and this goes for any race or gender.


It may sound strange though as much as i dont care for cops if one is present in that circumstance its just common sense if the need is real and bad enough to ask thier advice. He or she may well ask a passer by for you and are almost certain to get a positive response right away.


Not always easy to ask but its so important that you can when the need is present.


Logically speaking if asked to lend my phone id probably be stone deaf for as long as it took me to leave the immediate area. If they claim its an emergency id probably help them if i had it with me but almost certainly not overwise.


Hope this helps
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NDH said:
I think there is a subtle difference between offering help and asking for help, I can understand a reluctance to hand a mobile phone over to a total stranger, how were they to know you would not just legit with the phone.
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I agree, if you had had an incident (that was imediatly obvious) I would offer my phone, but if a stranger walked up to me an asked I would be suspicious. Particularly in the light of techno scams we are always laughing at people for falling for. The one that springs to mind is a stranger borrows your phone as car has 'broken down', calls premium number at £30 per minute and has ten minute conversation with answer phone. I am sure snopes will tell me it is untrue but it sticke in the mind!

Stuart
 
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It's not possible to say who would lend you a phone. We don't know how horrific you look or if you invade people's "personal space" when talking to them or if you have 5 days stubble growth and string around your coat.

The answer would depend entirely on how you put yourself across and if that fitted in the comfort zone of those you were accosting.
 
I really like to help people out by lending pilot books and charts whenever I can see the necessity. The difficulty I find is receiving these things back in due course which ends up with embarrassingly having to ask for return, it rather dissuades one from repeating the offer. If one borrows something one should be certain to return it, it's only fair!
 
I was in the bay at MIilport Cumbra on the Clyde wearing sailing gear/life jacket still on. They were the only ones around I stood well back so as to be less intimidating. I would not have approached them If there had only been one woman. The call was to let my wife know I had arrived safe. I hated to asked but, did not want her worrying. I had been listening to and audio book so the charge went down normally I would have had 4-7 days of charge (2 day trip)
 
A good deed never goes unpunished !

I once leant my Pilot books and charts to a chap we'd befriended who was in a Hunter 490 16' mini cruiser singlehanded, going through the Channel Islands & Isles Chausey while we were heading back to the UK; while I trusted him implicitly, I reasoned that the info' might well save his life, so if I didn't see them again I could still be happy...

He sent me the stuff back as soon as he was home.

On another occasion we met a young family in a twin engined shed of a motor boat; they'd already been rescued twice off the Brittany then Jersey coasts; we taught the hubbie dead reckoning navigation when he asked about it, and leant them charts & waterproofs; it took a lot of quite pointed asking to get our kit back !

This is not having a go at mobo's, they could equally have been sailors, just a description of 'some you win'; at least we had the satisfaction they got home safely, which must be a higher priority than some spare waterproofs etc...
 
BlackPig said:
I was in the bay at MIilport Cumbra on the Clyde wearing sailing gear/life jacket still on. They were the only ones around I stood well back so as to be less intimidating. I would not have approached them If there had only been one woman. The call was to let my wife know I had arrived safe. I hated to asked but, did not want her worrying. I had been listening to and audio book so the charge went down normally I would have had 4-7 days of charge (2 day trip)
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Just a thought ------ maybe you could have asked them to make the phone call for you ?
 
Wasn't there a post a while back about someone who lent a battery to a small boat to get it started, then the little boat ran off with the battery - boat and battery later found Porchester way, not sure what the outcome was.

I'd never let anyone use my phone, they could either pinch it or phone a premium rate phone number - I'd be happy to forward a message though if it was urgent.
 
A couple of years ago, i got some car parts for a friends son through my business. I gave him the parts and the suppliers invoice, he paid the invoice and got the parts at cost (our trade discounted price).

A few months later, one of the parts failed. He made a county court claim against my business for over £1100 :eek:

Let no good deed go unpunished.
 
I have lent my phone to strangers, and borrowed strangers' phones. If you're desperately needing to phone home, you might be feeling a bit agitated which probably comes across and makes people nervous, but if you approach with a relaxed smile, you're more likely to get a positive response.

But, I think if I was a young girl I'd be reluctant on the basis that it would be a good way for a would be stalker to get my phone number.
 
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