Help with US sports cruiser manufacturer pecking order

U4 said:
Ummm?..? But In the context of this post, the OP has been looking at boats ranging from 2003 to 2008 so clearly is not looking for an 'as new' boat? Unless I am missing something?
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"As new" in the context of my earlier sentence means "something newer, a lot more modern"... in my experience, it's easier to keep a boat in "as new" condition for 5-10 years, than beyond that. After 10-ish years, things start breaking much more rapidly... plastic become brittle and things fall apart, pumps start leaking, seals start going, fuel tank issues, etc. Also, in terms of styling, many 2005+ boats still look "up to date" whereas that's not usually the case with older boats - except to their fans/owners, maybe. Lastly, go over 10 years and you're more likely to see older Raytheon equipment, non-DSC radios and inefficient petrol engines - especially on US sport cruisers. (For example, the 10-year old boat I just sold was a lot closer to "as new" as another 2011 replacement we looked at... it all depends on how it is looked after.)
 
Dorset Dan said:
Well, looks like the Regal is out of the running for us.

The broker has informed us of two more viewings since Sunday and an offer within 7.5% of the asking price which has been declined! I won't even try to compete at those levels.......surely they would have priced it higher if the vendor was looking to only accept the asking price (or near as dammit)?

I've notified the broker of my interest and have asked to be kept in the loop if these initial offers do not proceed (and whilst I have no reason at all to distrust the broker, I have dealt with plenty of estate agents and car salesmen to know that certain tactics can be deployed to squeeze an increased offer from an interested buyer).
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An interesting twist to this tale in light of my comments above. I saw the boat advertised yesterday evening directly by the seller with his mobile number listed, so I texted him to let him know that my interest was serious and that my offer (that I made last week via the broker following the above e-mail) was still open. Turns out he was unaware of my offer as the brokers had not informed him and neither has he declined offers of the level that the broker was telling me.

My suspicions appear to have been well founded, not sure what the broker is playing at but I would not be happy if I were in the sellers position.

Anyway, I have left an offer with him for the Regal which he is pondering over so fingers crossed a mutually acceptable deal can be done.
 
Dorset Dan said:
An interesting twist to this tale in light of my comments above. I saw the boat advertised yesterday evening directly by the seller with his mobile number listed, so I texted him to let him know that my interest was serious and that my offer (that I made last week via the broker following the above e-mail) was still open. Turns out he was unaware of my offer as the brokers had not informed him and neither has he declined offers of the level that the broker was telling me.

My suspicions appear to have been well founded, not sure what the broker is playing at but I would not be happy if I were in the sellers position.

Anyway, I have left an offer with him for the Regal which he is pondering over so fingers crossed a mutually acceptable deal can be done.
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I thought Brokers were legally obliged to pass on any offer no matter how ridiculous? Or perhaps owners can say "don't bother contacting me with any offer below X"

Either way, I would expect the owner of that Regal to be mightily peeved.... Can you name and shame the broker? I can't see why you can't as you have no legal contract with them and you are only telling the truth.
 
Now spoken to broker and they were indeed instructed to achieve a net figure of 'X' so therefore declined any offers below this point and talk of higher offers was valid, it's just that they came with warranty requirements, etc which would have left the net figure too low. Now back dealing through them and hopefully will still be able to conclude a satisfactory deal all round.
 
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Given that the broker hadn't introduced you to the seller, surely you can save yourself and the seller some money and deal directly?
 
To be fair, I did the initial viewing via the broker and the contact with the seller directly came afterwards (following a direct ebay listing by the owner a week or so later).

A bit like estate agency I guess, there must be an exclusive period for which the seller has signed terms to market the boat through the brokerage which is fair enough as they no doubt expect to receive a commission for their efforts in getting the boat listed and advertised (which to be fair they have done a much better job of than most brokers, a huge number of hi resolution pics, lots of detail and did a viewing on a Sunday morning which some cannot accomodate).

Hopefully all will be well that ends well - my best offer is in so fingers crossed it suits all involved to get a deal concluded.
 
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