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Sharrow

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Hi. New to boats. Thinking of buying this 17ft boat. It's been fully restored to a high standardScreenshot_20220723-163328_Facebook.jpg, but I've no idea what it is or what it's worth. It's early 70's I believe. Does anyone have any idea please. Any advice would be welcomed.
 
Well it depends on if it has an engine and size , the trailer should have a jockey wheel. What is the stainless lump on the front.
 
Brixham Bound said:
Well it depends on if it has an engine and size , the trailer should have a jockey wheel. What is the stainless lump on the front.
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Good sea boats for their size
The ‘stainless steel lump’ was a desirable extra at the time
Designed to confuse passers by, numpties and other wasters
Who would ask what is for?
still works I notice!
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Thanks for the information. I just want to go on to the river with her. I've looked up Loftus Bennett boats and have read that they are heavy. I wouldn't be able to replace the engine. In your opinion, I will a 20hp be okay on the river?
 
Sharrow said:
Thanks for the information. I just want to go on to the river with her. I've looked up Loftus Bennett boats and have read that they are heavy. I wouldn't be able to replace the engine. In your opinion, I will a 20hp be okay on the river?
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They are 'heavy' but so were all of those type of boats back then. The hull is a 'planing' hull. Will trot along nicely at 16/22 kts 4/5 people up with a 50
At 'river' speeds ' will be fine with a 20 but you may find you are constantly adjusting the helm whilst 'pottering' but thats the nature of the Beast .
PCUK aint far off ref valuation imho
 
Thanks, that's all really useful. I may have to reconsider then as it is up up an awful lot more than that. It has had a completed refurbishment- new everything including canopy, two pack paint, bulge pump, upholstery, sink, toilet, etc. TBH, it looks superb, almost like a new boat. It's so hard finding something that is neat and tidy. This is the only one that actually looked like it's photographs when we viewed it. The camera seems to lie when it comes to boats (or hide a multitude)
 
The boat is only worth what someone is willing to pay. There is always a danger when renovating an old boat of spending far more than the boat is worth as you won't get it back when you sell. On the other hand as a buyer you have already seen that most older boats are rubbish and not worth the money being asked. If you want a ready to go boat and intend keeping it then it is worth paying more - the comparison is with what else you can get for your budget. The purchase cost is just the entry fee - running costs dwarf purchase costs at this price point!
 
Sharrow said:
Thanks, that's all really useful. I may have to reconsider then as it is up up an awful lot more than that. It has had a completed refurbishment- new everything including canopy, two pack paint, bulge pump, upholstery, sink, toilet, etc. TBH, it looks superb, almost like a new boat. It's so hard finding something that is neat and tidy. This is the only one that actually looked like it's photographs when we viewed it. The camera seems to lie when it comes to boats (or hide a multitude)
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If you think it’s worth it , go for it does it have a jockey wheel on the trailer ,
 
Tranona said:
The boat is only worth what someone is willing to pay. There is always a danger when renovating an old boat of spending far more than the boat is worth as you won't get it back when you sell. On the other hand as a buyer you have already seen that most older boats are rubbish and not worth the money being asked. If you want a ready to go boat and intend keeping it then it is worth paying more - the comparison is with what else you can get for your budget. The purchase cost is just the entry fee - running costs dwarf purchase costs at this price point!
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Wise words, and kind of the conclusion I've come to. It is for sale for over £8k, but is absolutely ready to go and finished to a very high standard. Everything else I've looked at has been terrible and even my naive eye could see I'd be constantly throwing money at the boats, so it comes down to what is it worth to me. The answer is ... I really don't know. I haven't the time or skill to renovate something myself (sadly when I was at school girls were made to do needlework whilst the boys did woodwork :-( ). Heart or head ?
 
Brixham Bound said:
You will never get your money back.
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But suppose he buys it for £8k, and the work has indeed been well done, and the engine doesn't blow up or the trailer collapse, and he actually uses it... After 2 years and 10 lovely days out on the river (we won't count the ones that aren't lovely or he has to row it back) he sells it for £4k. It's cost him £2k p.a. or £400 per day plus any fees, fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc. Say £500 per day. Seems OK to me on that basis. Lot of "ifs" though.
 
TwoHooter said:
But suppose he buys it for £8k, and the work has indeed been well done, and the engine doesn't blow up or the trailer collapse, and he actually uses it... After 2 years and 10 lovely days out on the river (we won't count the ones that aren't lovely or he has to row it back) he sells it for £4k. It's cost him £2k p.a. or £400 per day plus any fees, fuel, maintenance, insurance, etc. Say £500 per day. Seems OK to me on that basis. Lot of "ifs" though.
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He could rent for less.
 
@Sharrow
  • That boat is over-priced.
  • You will not get your money back when you sell it.
  • It would be cheaper to rent.
But if it's what you want, and it's the best you've seen (I agree most are rubbish & not worth £100), and you can afford it then I suggest you haggle the price down to something a bit more reasonable and remember, you only live once.
 
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