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Hi all,
I'm Gav and I'm new to sailing and looking at buying my 1st sailing yacht,
I've got a budget of about 12k I've been reading in PBO but the yacht I like didn't get reviewed?
It is the pegasus 800, are they any good?
Your help would be great full
Many thanks

Gav
 
In a 1987 "Which Boat" guide, they said re the Pegasus 800:
For: Glossy finish both above and below decks. Sophisticated styling. Nippy performance. Plush accommodation. Comfortable, ergonomic cockpit.
Against: Quarter berth access complicated by nav table and sliding galley. Cluttered stemhead. Anchor well hatch needs larger hinges. Moulded stanchion bases difficult to repair if damaged.
 
Have you tried googling ' Pegasus 800 ' in case there's an Owner's Association with lots of info ?

As Rock Dodger says, there will be expensive extras so best to aim for a purchase price a fair bit lower than your max affordable; remember new sails will be around £6-700 each so their condition could well be a deal breaker.

Ideally you'll need a No.1 Genoa and separate Storm Jib - if the Genoa is on a roller reefing foil - and a mainsail capable of at least 2 slab reef rows ( if roller reefing around the boom it's old enough to be a worry and probably inefficient from new ).

Also the engine, if inboard and original that would be a serious financial worry.

What sort of keel is she, and where are you hoping to keep her ?

That last bit alone is extremely important !

Not just for costs of moorings and the point to choose the right keel format; a chum of mine, a good pro engineer, had a Pegasus 700 twin keeler sink on the mooring moments after purchase, the keels need a rather good inspection inside & out.
 
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speaking to the owner of an Albino Vega who crossed the Atlantic he just relied on his furling jib and had no storm jib..... highly dangerous changing to a storm jib when you need it on a little boat.
 
Go that way if you wish, a storm jib is probably why I'm bothering you typing now; I am quite sure a baggy high windage rolled genoa would not have cut the mustard.

If given half the chance with any size boat with a roller headsail, one gets the thing off the foil before the weather is too bad, because of the windage.

Various reasons why windage is a Bad Thing especially at the front and high up.

They have all sorts of things like safety harnesses, deck points and jackstays to allow going on deck nowadays.
 
On one of my boats pre furling I had a working jib with a reef and that seemed to be a fairly good idea.With small boats sail cloth does not need to be heavy etc.Anyway the AVega man who had been in several Jester events thought he managed alright in storm conditions.without a SJib.I agree about the shape of the furled sail but I guess unless you are going to windward its not that important in a small boat, maybe just a deep reefed main would be all the sail the boat needs.
 
What kind of sailing is the OP planning and in what waters? For example, are you in very tidal waters with lots of drying mud? Do you want to be able to take the ground or will it always be in deep water? Do you want to race at all? have you a family that would want to accompany you? Will your cruising area be sheltered or exposed?
 
Avocet said:
What kind of sailing is the OP planning and in what waters? For example, are you in very tidal waters with lots of drying mud? Do you want to be able to take the ground or will it always be in deep water? Do you want to race at all? have you a family that would want to accompany you? Will your cruising area be sheltered or exposed?
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We seem to have suddenly progressed from some poor chap buying his first boat to discussing storm jibs, for God 's sake! A Pegasus was a perfectly good boat, as was the Vega. All that matters is for the OP to get out there and look at a few boats and then he can join join the rest of us who have drained all our cash into the bottomless pit of leisure sailing. He will then become a complete human being.
 
Storm jibs are life savers no matter how experienced or negligent one is, should simply be part of the sail suit and that's it, just like having a reefable main.

Pegasus twin keel mounts have a big ? over them after my chum's 700 series boat had the keels punch up through the bilges surprisingly easily...
 
When you do, you'll know all about it, or the coroner might work it out.

Yours, 45 years in cruisers and no idea how many miles logged but the log stopped around 10,000, I only use it on holidays.
 
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Little Grebe said:
Amazingly have sailed cruisers for almost 20 years and put some 30k miles under the keel in that time I have never had the need for a storm jib :rolleyes:
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On my first cruiser, a Westerly Cirrus, I borrowed an Enterprise jib as a storm sail. It sort of gave up in a storm force three.
 
My half - Scottish wallet tempted me the same way with a jib from my Scorpion dinghy, until a moment of revelation.

You know when the bloke in ' Jaws ' says " We're going to need a bigger boat ! "

Well that's how I felt in a F5-6, " We're going to need a jolly strong thick material storm jib to get through this sailing lark ! "

Nowadays brightly coloured is a sensible touch.
 
Gav800 said:
Hi all,
I'm Gav and I'm new to sailing and looking at buying my 1st sailing yacht,
I've got a budget of about 12k I've been reading in PBO but the yacht I like didn't get reviewe


It is the pegasus 800, are they any good?
Your help would be great full
Many thanks

Gav
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As you have probably gathered this place is beleagued with self opinionated individuals with agendas totally contrary to your original query. Believe me, it really is best to make your own decision. Good luck.
 
Or you could ignore clueless types and at least give a thought to mention of things to watch from people who have been sailing for decades and have no gain to make whatever boat you chose, just want to help ! :rolleyes:
 
Seajet said:
Or you could ignore clueless types and at least give a thought to mention of things to watch from people who have been sailing for decades and have no gain to make whatever boat you chose, just want to help ! :rolleyes:
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But you are not "helping" - just giving your own opinions that are completely unrelated to the OPs situation.
 
johnalison said:
On my first cruiser, a Westerly Cirrus, I borrowed an Enterprise jib as a storm sail. It sort of gave up in a storm force three.
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We have had a few 'interesting' moments (mainly between Eastbourne and Dover) but never had I thought that carrying storm jib or a tri-sail would make any real difference...
 
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Little Grebe said:
Sadly an all too common situation
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I have a storm jib in my loft that was made by David Lidstone in Torpoint for my Eventide when it was built in Plymouth in 1963. In the hands of the previous owners (and myself for the last 35 years) it has cruised all over the Channel down to Brittany and across to Ireland. It is pristine condition and has never been used.
 
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