Help me to understand the bureaucracy of exporting boat from UK to EU

Tranona said:
You won't get "caught" in the UK as you are not entering, but leaving. westernman raises a good point about seeking relief from VAT if you are taking up residence in Sweden after a period resident elsewhere. Returning Resident relief is in the EU VAT rules for chattels owned by a person who qualifies and includes boats.

It does not matter what the current VAT status is - what you say about the previous owner suggests that it was illegally imported into the UK/(EU as was) because even a foreign owned boat cannot stay in either for 6 years without being imported and paying VAT. You may also from what you have said own a boat that is not certified for use in the EU - what is it, where and when was it built? Does it have a CE plate?

I would urge you to clarify all this with the Swedish authorities before you enter as you may well found the boat impounded if you are not able to import it. Far more important to sort this out than registration.
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Firstly, the seller is uk citizen and was uk resident. He probably had own company as well as he worked as a skipper. I dont known much about him else though. The boat had ssr registration, and uk radio license anyway.

If it is true that I'm allowed leave , I'd prob have not proceed with polish eu flag but it is too late now. The company told me that the Hull has no number so the boat has no category or CE. By design, it is easily a B category.

I have some papers at home in Sweden and i don't remember all details. But i was suprised that I was able to get all papers sorted out and now im awaiting for a certificate.

I think it is easier to deal with Polish certificate (eligble to sail in EU etc) so now I have one thing to sort out. Its VAT.

Yes, the boat is built in a 3rd country, as you guessed.
 
Everything you say suggests it is not a good idea to try and import this boat into the EU. It was almost certainly illegally imported into the UK (then in the EU) without VAT being paid and getting a CE mark. Anything about the old owner as in your first sentence is irrelevant as is whether the boat is registered or not.

You intend importing a boat into the EU which means it must have a CE mark and you will have to pay VAT. The only way to get a CE mark is a post construction assessment which, even if it meets the requirements is enormously expensive - £8-10K if it needs the full design analysis and stability testing plus a new engine unless (unlikely) it is new enough to meet the latest emission requirements.
 
Ok, I reread the old conversation. The seller mentioned only "tax". It doesnt have to mean vat , right? What kind of tax does one pay by importing during the pre brexit period?

I will look at goods return.

I mentioned i have papers at home but i don't remember. I might have CE and vat papers.
 
Only VAT. If it was not built in the EU or EEA, or originally sold in the EU and does not have a hull number it will not have a CE mark. You need the original builders handbook which will contain a copy of the "Declaration of Conformity" which is the proper evidence.

Why are you so reluctant to say what the boat is and where it was built as this may help give you advice - although everything you say about it suggests it is not RCD compliant which means you cannot import it into the EU. If you have no evidence of VAT payment (receipt from customs) it is probably in the UK illegally, although doubt anybody would care after all this time. You may have difficulty in selling it though without better provenance.
 
Tranona said:
Only VAT. If it was not built in the EU or EEA, or originally sold in the EU and does not have a hull number it will not have a CE mark. You need the original builders handbook which will contain a copy of the "Declaration of Conformity" which is the proper evidence.

Why are you so reluctant to say what the boat is and where it was built as this may help give you advice - although everything you say about it suggests it is not RCD compliant which means you cannot import it into the EU. If you have no evidence of VAT payment (receipt from customs) it is probably in the UK illegally, although doubt anybody would care after all this time. You may have difficulty in selling it though without better provenance.
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I'm 2nd owner. I have all papers of all prices and the build. 30-40 pages..from the accountant company

650 mini, year 2006, plywood, built in South Africa.

The old ssr certificate shows the Hull number.
 
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Sorry, but you are avoiding the issue. The boat is almost certainly not RCD compliant and therefore cannot be imported into the EU without a post construction assessment. All the stuff you mention is irrelevant. You need to clarify with the Swedish authorities what you need to do to be allowed to import the boat into Sweden.

Or you can just rock up there and hope nobody notices.

Bit of guesswork but I would imagine the original owner brought it to Europe to race under temporary admission rules and forgot to take it out of the EU(UK) and instead sold it to you. If you were non UK resident you could have kept it there under the same rules, but now you wish to move it to your country of residence which is in the EU so to be legal it has to comply with EU rules.
 
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