Hello and advice needed please

I'm sure that in the end Roy will get the boat that suits him and so long as he has a good time and enjoys it safely I'd chalk it up as a win!
Anyway I'll be out on the river next week so to those I havn't alienated say hi n pop over for a beer or buttie depending on yr poison.
To those I have - fair winds anyway :)
N

Do you want to buy a couple of Jerry cans?

I still have two in the garage from when I used to own a Petrol boat (owned 5 Petrol boats in my time including a Sealine for Phil's sake as apparently I dont know what I am talking about!)
 
Do you want to buy a couple of Jerry cans?

I still have two in the garage from when I used to own a Petrol boat (owned 5 Petrol boats in my time including a Sealine for Phil's sake as apparently I dont know what I am talking about!)

Damn right please Apollo I'll buy them PM me please bud and we can sort something out.
I'll make sure you don't have to get too close to my "soon to explode" Fairline :)
N
 
Fair play to you if you have a spare £2-£3k to burn in fuel for one channel crossing, thats one hell of a lot of booze to be wasing though:D

(These figures are not exagerated either, something you will find out in time. There is a reason petrol boats become yo-yo boats. How many owners has yours had this far?)

I'm the 4th in 20 yrs but to be fair it has been a liveaboard for the last owner.
I think the point some people miss is how much more boat you can get for your money if you'll accept petrol and it's downside.
I found a boat with platform and transom gate which immediatley won out for personal reasons so to get that in my budget I had to compromise elsewhere.
Dont get me wrong I'd love a Targa with shiny new diesels but I'm not going to spend the £15k premium it costs.
 
Out of interest Apollo, what made you switch to diesel after owning five petrol boats?

Cost, when I switched Diesel was only 19p a litre!~

Did most of my Holland and Bruges trips when it was 30p a litre and always did 1000 litres for the trip but that was at only 8 knots.

A mate of mine burns 1000litres each way and then more while he is over there...

...and the other bigger pain, was finding somewhere to buy Petrol on the waterside. Gets a bit boring carting it from Tescos after a while..
 
Out of interest Apollo, what made you switch to diesel after owning five petrol boats?

Oh, that's an easy one - his brain cell finally caught up :D

Actually, I haven't recognised any of the interchange on here as being particularly offensive - we've had far worse A little mild abuse maybe, but I put that down to over enthusiastic attempts to help the OP avoid making what many of us would consider a mistake.

If the word Binliner offended was it perhaps because the OP isn't (or wasn't) aware that that is a term of 'endearment' we use instead of Bayliner (boats) and was not a personal abuse?

In the early days of first boat ownership many conflicting issues confuse the decision process. Skipper to be will be all about engines and toys and such stuff, whereas SWMBO (at least most of them) will more likely be influenced by comfort and appearance and safety - particularly safety if there are kids involved.
Finance is always an issue. Unless you're top case loaded there's never enough money to buy and run the boat you would really like so it comes down to deciding what you can find that you like and that (almost) fits your budget.

The OP asked us for advice and guidance and I soon gained the impression that the attractive condition was a more important issue than some of the more practical aspects. I suspect the OP was hoping more of us would tell him what he would like to hear, but it became clear that the advice from many to avoid petrol was not being heeded.

Absolutely fine, thats his decision and he will have to live by it. Accidents of the type we have drawn attention to rarely happen and, as others have said, many people run petrol boats satisfactorily.

However, for me, and clearly many others, fuel availability on the river and safety issues are at the top of my lists.

As ever, 'caveat emptor' , but I wish them well as they discover the delights of boating.
 
Something to think about : there are a lot of boat valeters out there who can work wonders.

I watched an old Sea Ray moored opposite the lock transform over a couple of weeks from a mildewed unloved green mess into a virtually showroom condition boat.

Seat covers rotted ? new ones are easy to have made . Most equipment can be retrofitted , if you have bought the boat cheap enough , there should be enough in the budget to allow for renovations .

What ever boat you go for , don't be too swayed by cosmetics , in fact it may even serve as a bargaining chip. I'm sure you've heard it before , but make sure mechanicals are sound , cosmetics are much easier ( and cheaper ) to fix than oily moving bits.

FWIW the half price licence starts on the 1st September , not October.
 
FWIW the half price licence starts on the 1st September , not October.

Whoops - sorry.
Still not good value for what could be two months use only.

Now that the dreaded TWA order has been approved, when will (or has) EA implemented the changes?
F'rinstance I've noticed posting here earlier in the year, stating that offline boats not used aren't subject to registration, nor are boats not used. That's not my understanding of the current regulations.
 
Looks like a nice one, might be a bit cautious over ageing MD32s if thats what they are, parts can be an issue, but it looks pretty sound in the pix. It will take you tidal quite happily and the a great boat for entertaining, the cockpit is vast.
 
I'm always a little curious when people have a fixed budget for a Boat, but not it's running and ownership costs.

It's all too confusing for somebody as simplistic as me...

I'm even more confused when they ask other curious people not to speculate on their finances, when the whole issue of a limited budget has been clearly stated !?


When looking for our last boat, we saw a lovely Fairline Phantom, you know, the Sunbridge version, which is a cracking design, masses of space inside, and a huuuge flybridge too.

Trouble is, we worked out the running costs of it's twin V8's, and shuudered at the thought of twin crusty old sterndrives, and the more expensive Broom was a no-brainer.

When resale time comes, I'll get all the difference back, and sell it a lot quicker too.

Wait until fuel prices get even higher, and even the massive cost of a pair of new engines (Or even a single diesel conversion) might even make sense to the now poverty stricken person who has a pair of 5.0 litre lumps in their engine room.

Those engines will make great anchors mind you...
 
Oh, that's an easy one - his brain cell finally caught up :D

Actually, I haven't recognised any of the interchange on here as being particularly offensive - we've had far worse A little mild abuse maybe, but I put that down to over enthusiastic attempts to help the OP avoid making what many of us would consider a mistake.

If the word Binliner offended was it perhaps because the OP isn't (or wasn't) aware that that is a term of 'endearment' we use instead of Bayliner (boats) and was not a personal abuse?

In the early days of first boat ownership many conflicting issues confuse the decision process. Skipper to be will be all about engines and toys and such stuff, whereas SWMBO (at least most of them) will more likely be influenced by comfort and appearance and safety - particularly safety if there are kids involved.
Finance is always an issue. Unless you're top case loaded there's never enough money to buy and run the boat you would really like so it comes down to deciding what you can find that you like and that (almost) fits your budget.

The OP asked us for advice and guidance and I soon gained the impression that the attractive condition was a more important issue than some of the more practical aspects. I suspect the OP was hoping more of us would tell him what he would like to hear, but it became clear that the advice from many to avoid petrol was not being heeded.

Absolutely fine, thats his decision and he will have to live by it. Accidents of the type we have drawn attention to rarely happen and, as others have said, many people run petrol boats satisfactorily.

However, for me, and clearly many others, fuel availability on the river and safety issues are at the top of my lists.

As ever, 'caveat emptor' , but I wish them well as they discover the delights of boating.
Thank You and no I didnt recognise the term of endearment i apologise if i was too defensive in that regard. I am now off to try to work out what a SWMBO is...:D
Cheers
 
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