Heads basins: tip up or sliding

This is all a bit of a hoot with various personal cleaning habits being aired in public. Really, though, I was hoping for some comment by someone who had a tip up (pullman) sink or a slide away one on the advantages/disadvantages they found.

Is there no-one on the forum who can answer the original question?
 
Will try and be sensible (although my boat has a corian washbasin and a proper shower with dedicated sump and pump out!). Used to sail a boat with a sliding bowl - just a piece of ply with a plastic sink and drain into the loo, probably sourced from a caravan). Perfectly adequate and it slid under the side deck when not in use. expect it could be arranged to have its own drain overboard. Also had a fold down Whale water pump plumbed to the main water tank. Not used a fold down, but think the downside is that they still take up space when folded and guess you have to keep them clean and dry as well as being more difficult to arrange a drain
 
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We have one in our motorsailer but as it has yet to hit the water I cannot comment from personal experience. It seems fine to me now that I have refitted it to a sensible height. Our son had one in a little motorsailer, in which it performed perfectly well.

I also fitted a sliding sink, many years ago, in a GK29. It was very good, mainly because it could slide out a long way over the toilet bowl. The biggest problem with all boat sinks is that they are too close to bulkheads, where access is difficult.
 
I also have a 28ft boat which was built with lined heads with the sump fo a shower pump - but one shower would empty the water tank! I also have a caravan with a tip-up sink. It is neccessary to rod through the drain from time to time or else it blocks with hair and soap. When blocked the basin overfills the hopper and all the dirty water goes over your feet. It may not be that easy to use in a seaway as the bowl is a bit shallow and would tend to slop around and a controlled pour when emptying cannot be guaranteed when you hit a wave. Personally, I'd go for a slide out basin.

Rob.
 
rob2 said:
I also have a 28ft boat which was built with lined heads with the sump fo a shower pump - but one shower would empty the water tank! I also have a caravan with a tip-up sink. It is neccessary to rod through the drain from time to time or else it blocks with hair and soap. When blocked the basin overfills the hopper and all the dirty water goes over your feet. It may not be that easy to use in a seaway as the bowl is a bit shallow and would tend to slop around and a controlled pour when emptying cannot be guaranteed when you hit a wave. Personally, I'd go for a slide out basin.

Rob.
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Our shower drain at home used to need cleaning out at about 6-8 week intervals. Then SWMBO started buying Pears soap which leaves no residue. Now it goes half a year before it needs clearing (and that's mostly because of trapped hair)
 
parsifal said:
Our shower drain at home used to need cleaning out at about 6-8 week intervals. Then SWMBO started buying Pears soap which leaves no residue. Now it goes half a year before it needs clearing (and that's mostly because of trapped hair)
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Someone needs to develop an enzyme that digests human hair.
 
dgadee said:
This is all a bit of a hoot with various personal cleaning habits being aired in public. Really, though, I was hoping for some comment by someone who had a tip up (pullman) sink or a slide away one on the advantages/disadvantages they found.

Is there no-one on the forum who can answer the original question?
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I have a slide back sink on my Cobra 750 with a flipper tap, it works well, slides above the heads in use.
best if the drain & water supply is as far outboard as poss so the sink can be pulled fwd with the pipes still behind a backplate behind the heads.

I imagine the radiii involved in piping a tipping sink would be almost as obstructive as a fixed one, and much more difficult to make it look smart.
 
vyv_cox said:
We have one in our motorsailer but as it has yet to hit the water I cannot comment from personal experience. It seems fine to me now that I have refitted it to a sensible height. Our son had one in a little motorsailer, in which it performed perfectly well.

I also fitted a sliding sink, many years ago, in a GK29. It was very good, mainly because it could slide out a long way over the toilet bowl. The biggest problem with all boat sinks is that they are too close to bulkheads, where access is difficult.
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I called around today at a caravan sales place and they let me look at some of the older caravans with drop down sinks (they didn't sell the sinks). The sinks look very flimsy and you can push the plastic in with a finger. Not sure if they would stand up to someone accidentally falling against them.

What make are your ones Vyv?
 
Here is a photo of the sliding sink in Flora (Westerly Centaur).

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This is underneath showing the pipe routing (and various cleaning products - now all tidied up :) )

Normal view from the front.

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I like the sliding sink - works well and you can keep your toilet bag & stuff in the sink until you need it. Doesn't work so well with a flip top!

Di
 
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I'm very intersted in this thread, as I'm also planning to install a heads basin. I don't know what the answer is, but I know what it isn't:

1) Caravan (and some boat) sinks with a flat bottom (rather than curving down to the drain hole). You can never get all the water out in a boat unless both it and your boat is exactly level and there's no swell - you are always left with a couple of tablespoons of water swilling about.

2) The overpriced Plastimo corner sinks, which seem designed to be as difficult to install as possible (detailing of outside edges, etc.).
 
dgadee said:
...........I am one of those odd creatures who squirm when the see men leaving toilets with unwashed hands. Execution is the only punishment for them.
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I don't think you are that odd! I am of a certain age and am equally horrified. I have a 20 yr old son and a 24 yr old secretary who won't touch a public toilet door handle with their bare hands for the same reasons. (Truth be known, neither will I!) :eek:
 
Emjaytoo said:
I don't think you are that odd! I am of a certain age and am equally horrified. I have a 20 yr old son and a 24 yr old secretary who won't touch a public toilet door handle with their bare hands for the same reasons. (Truth be known, neither will I!) :eek:
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What do you think might happen to you if you do?
 
I understood it was banknotes that were the most filthy germ-ridden items in the world. If you send yours to me, I will dispose of them in a safe & hygenic manner :)

Di
 
dgadee said:
Any chance of a photo?


Ps: Just found this - 3rd and 4th images: http://www.yachtforums.com/forums/d...160-review-roscioli-donzi-80-sportfish-3.html

Very nicely done. I might have space for something similar (wide 30 footer). And looks robust.
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same idea, but on 25', so not quite as lush as "roscioli" !
"U" shaped channels attached to bulkhead, plywood top engages in the channels, sink inlaid into the ply and a facing pieces to oscure the plumbing attached behind heads and to sliding worktop.
Bolt to hold in either position.

It's a factory built boat, so you may find a pic elsewhere.

My pic will have to wait till the gales subside, I don't think my collection extends to the heads.
 
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