Headlining glue?

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What is the best glue for sticking headlinings up? I replaced my headlining and used a high temperature contact adhesive as was told by a local shop but it hasn't worked?

Anyone have any recommendations?
 

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Talk to Hawke House. http://www.hawkehouse.co.uk/
They will advise & supply everything you need. http://www.hawkehouse.co.uk/adhesives/adhesives.html

There are two glues for sticking headlining to the hull - one a contact adhesive, and the other a spray adhesive - used together.
A different adhesive for gluing rounded corners of vinyl onto itself (like the old airfix model glue).

We followed their instructions and everything still stuck well almost 10 years later.
 

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I'm tackling the same job with carpet lining.

I've had recent success with Trim-Fix and it's made it through some warm for the UK days - http://www.ebay.co.uk/itm/Trimfix-A...hash=item1a1de15067:m:mqwJWulsS6Cyy0iXXfRc_Xw

Make sure you spray both the fabric and the boat, then wait for the solvent to partially flash off before joining. Don't let the fabric crease on itself as that's hard to solve - anything else no problem. Plenty of time to remove and re-position and if you do run out just spray some more.

You'll want plenty of this kicking around - https://www.amazon.co.uk/Evo-Stik-1...d=1504164941&sr=8-3&keywords=adhesive+cleaner - as it's amazing for cleaning up the inevitable overspray.

You also need eye protection, disposable gloves and a good quality organic vapour mask such as - https://www.amazon.co.uk/3M-6002-C1...qid=1504164997&sr=1-4&keywords=3m+vapour+mask - using one of those I couldn't even smell the glue.

I know the eye protection especially sounds over the top but working overheard you won't regret it...

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My father used the spray on stuff, but I never got great result and my new headlining would always end up peeling at the edges or coming away. Toomer and Hayter gave me some advice and supplied me with stuff you paint on to the boat, and its about a thousand times better than the spray on stuff.

http://www.toomerandhayter.co.uk/products/detail/?id=152&cat=5

It really is cracking stuff... stinky, stinky, cracking stuff.
 

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Talk to Hawke House. http://www.hawkehouse.co.uk/
They will advise & supply everything you need. http://www.hawkehouse.co.uk/adhesives/adhesives.html

There are two glues for sticking headlining to the hull - one a contact adhesive, and the other a spray adhesive - used together.
A different adhesive for gluing rounded corners of vinyl onto itself (like the old airfix model glue).

We followed their instructions and everything still stuck well almost 10 years later.

Did mine with these too, stuck very well.
 

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I'm currently insulating and relining an old Westerly (pretty standard old westerly job!)

The insulation, which is 8mm flexible closed cell foam, is being stuck in place with TGB trade grip high heat contact adhesive (http://www.thegluepeople.co.uk/index.php main_page=product_info&cPath=6_7&products_id=114 ).

The foam-backed vinyl is being stuck in place with toolstation spray contact adhesive. https://www.toolstation.com/shop/Ad...dhesives/sd2340/Spray+Contact+Adhesive/p47790

Very pleased with the results so far but only time will tell how long it lasts.

It seems to me that it's the foam of the foam backed vinyl that fails before the glue (at least that's the case on my boat).
 

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It seems to me that it's the foam of the foam backed vinyl that fails before the glue (at least that's the case on my boat).

That's what normally happens, the foam turns to dust. But, if the glue used to stick it fails prematurely the whole lot falls off. You need high heat glue when sticking to the GRP hull, which you have used.
 

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If you are using contact adhesive make sure it is the high temperature stuff. If you dont use high temperature stuff I assure you it will fall off given time
 

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Most long term problems are caused by the migration of plasticisers in the vinyl leading to adhesive failure. I spoke to many adhesive manufacturers about alternatives to Hawke House stuff as I had an allergic reaction to it. None would guarantee their product for this job and using spray carpet adhesive usually leads to bond failure after a year or two, particularly in hotter climates.
 

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I used separate vinyl and double sided sticky backed foam from Hawk House.
Works very well.
Much better than glue as you don't get the fumes.
The more effort you put into getting rid of all the old glue the better.
 

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I used separate vinyl and double sided sticky backed foam from Hawk House.
Works very well.
Much better than glue as you don't get the fumes.
The more effort you put into getting rid of all the old glue the better.

I spoke to Hawke House about this method as it appealed to me but they advised the adhesive may not be suitable for Med temperatures, where are you based? If it's the same self-adhesive (must ask them) as used on their ribbed carpet type lining, that has held firm in lockers on ply and grp for 12 years.
 
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