Capt. Clueless
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As in the title, but without the aid of craneage. In other words, winching the boat from a trailer into a cradle with rollers, but without any lifting gear? possible please?
Has anyone moved a 20'+ boat from a trailer to a cradle?
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richardabeattie
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What type of boat? Motor boat? Fin keel yacht? It matters!
NickRobinson
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Yes but- 20' GRP canal boat project (no keel to speak of) which was bought on the ground and transported on a hired car trailer. I alternated two ratchet straps to winch it on which had enough grunt. Pretty brutal.
Edit- I assume a keel if it needs a cradle? Not sure how you would keep it upright while transferring without a crane.
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Capt. Clueless
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23' lift keel sailer.
Redfox226
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Is the trailer track wider than the cradle? If so then should be possible to place ramps either side of the cradle, run the trailer up onto them, and slide the trailer out from under the boat, leaving the boat on the cradle.
JumbleDuck
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I moved a Hunter 490 (only 16', though, and 500kg) from one trailer to another using stout wooden poles, the entire staff of the lab I was working in and a fairly hefty beer bill afterwards.
Seajet
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A chum used the buttress threaded ' acro ' style supports - with large,load spreading hull pads - of his trailer to raise his Anderson 22 lift keeler enough to expose the full keel - it draws 4'6" when down.
He had to remove the trailer's central keel rest tray and axles though !
After raising the boat she was a touch wobbly but one could have fitted trestles underneath.
Otherwise I think you may be looking for someone with a farm loader - watch out for point loadings on the hull - or hi-ab.
He had to remove the trailer's central keel rest tray and axles though !
After raising the boat she was a touch wobbly but one could have fitted trestles underneath.
Otherwise I think you may be looking for someone with a farm loader - watch out for point loadings on the hull - or hi-ab.
Capt. Clueless
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That sounds do-able. Currently, I have yet to fabricate the cradle/support system. The reason is because my boat goes into winter storage at the end of Oct, and I don't want a £1000 boat sitting about on a 2k trailer. (spent that budget on a trip to Thailand next year). A few guys around Cumbria who will pull it out for me and tow it 200 yds for some sheckles, then I want to transfer it to a cradle or props for it's winter lay up. It would then be the reverse in the spring.
Capt. Clueless
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Doh!! Never thought of that. It is going to be stored on a working farm, enquiries will be made.
Seajet
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Have a look at the ' Buyers Guide ' bit on the site in my sig below, it has a pic of the A22 trestles; I supply plans and details for these DIY winter storage trestles for owners, last I heard about £300 on materials and 3 weeks casual vaguely competent spare time DIY.
If you got the boat up high they could be swung up & erected from flat , underneath - owners of other boats have used the design ( by my ace engineer father ) with a little change of the hull profile.
The trestles are flat for storage or transport once the side steadies are removed.
If you're seriously keen, PM me your e-mail and I'll let you on the member's part of the site with all the build details.
Free to you as I've just had a good sail so feeling OK !
Andy
If you got the boat up high they could be swung up & erected from flat , underneath - owners of other boats have used the design ( by my ace engineer father ) with a little change of the hull profile.
The trestles are flat for storage or transport once the side steadies are removed.
If you're seriously keen, PM me your e-mail and I'll let you on the member's part of the site with all the build details.
Free to you as I've just had a good sail so feeling OK !
Andy
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We used to transfer our Hunter Delta (25ft, lifting keel) from trailer to blocks for winter storage. Jacked up the stern onto sleepers, with big wedges to keep the boat upright. Then jacked up the bow with a beam made from another sleeper. Allowed the trailer to be moved a foot or so. Then jacked up the bow at another point, so that the trailer could be moved another foot. Etc. Cost was only a dozen sleepers and two two-tone jacks.
NickRobinson
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I know there's a trailer for sale for little money in Barrow in Furness... free project boat too, unfortunately.
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Tranona
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Do as TonyMS suggests and jack it up , remove the trailer, insert the cradle and lower down. Or just leave it on the trailer jacked up on blocks with no wheels on it. Nobody is going to steal a trailer with no wheels on it but a worthless boat sitting on top.
Seajet
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That sounds like you're calling the OP's boat worthless...
Capt. Clueless
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Lol, I suppose it is compared to some of the stuff you guys are sailing about in, but there again it's just a bit of fun & a laugh for us (One step up from a lilo). Some great thoughts and ideas coming up here and many thanks to all. I would buy an old boat on a rusty trailer, use the trailer solely as a yard trailer and dump the boat, but dumping boats isn't that easy, and then I have to go and buy a tow car, tax it, MOT it and insure it etc and which would probably be only used twice a year. I would imagine the back end of my Alfa spider would part company with the rest of the car, if attempting to pull anything, so the buying of any trailer is really a non starter unfortunately.
ghostlymoron
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I took my Leisure 17 off its trailer by tying the boat to a tree and towing the trailer out from under it. I can't recall how we got it back on but I think the tree was used again.
The Leisure 17 weighs about 600kg.
The Leisure 17 weighs about 600kg.
Tranona
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By his own admission - the boat is worth less than the trailer - so the boat without the trailer is probably worth even less than it is on a functioning trailer.
Seajet
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Well it strikes me as an unnecessarily insulting term; if a boat is someone's pride and joy and gives them pleasure, that is beyond putting any cold £ sign on.
Tranona
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Why are you getting so worked up about this? - read what the OP writes. He seems more in tune with reality than you. Of course you have to put a "cold hard £ sign" on it - that was the whole basis of his question.
