Hardy 25/26 advice

stuartwineberg

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I love the Hardy designs; pretty boats.

Just as a matter of interest they have had a couple of bigger 32' boats for sale on their official site for a number of years without successfully selling them.

How re-saleable is the old fashioned Hardy s/d design in the world of modern planing boats?

I did my own website to sell my 36 and it went in a week. My feeling is the small ones like the 25 sell very quickly if in good nick often through the Hardy owners club website. I think the ones on the Hardy site are overpriced and I notice that the brokerage list hasn't been updated since April so the transfer of the business to Windboats may have taken their eye off the brokerage side. I don't think the fundamental s/d design is an issue, it comes from a great pedigree of Nelsons, Broom, Aquastars and other great brands of solid sea boats. The comments here on the 32 are fair and it's a big jump up in complexity to a twin installation in still a rather limited amount of interior space.
 

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I think it's more to do with 2 large seating areas and only 1 cabin. The new hardy 32DS has put that right, it's twin cabin layout would be ideal for us, but at an eye watering price.

The new 32ds is a gorgeous boat: it's not listed on their website though!

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Well it kinda is listed, that's it. The outside has not changed and IMO didn't need to. Classic design IMO. . The inside has though, massively. There maybe one at libs. One has been in build since September and if ready will be displayed.

I think Hardy owners are a bit like people who drive an old landrover, Morris minor or an old Morgan or other classic car.:)

Even if I had the money I couldn't bring myself to buy a prin/fair/Sunseeker 'Go faster' 'drug runners' boat. :D

It's not about class; it's about tradition, or rather the kind of family traditions and values you were brought up with.
 

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I think Hardy owners are a bit like people who drive an old landrover, Morris minor or an old Morgan or other classic car.:)

Even if I had the money I couldn't bring myself to buy a prin/fair/Sunseeker 'Go faster' 'drug runners' boat. :D

It's not about class; it's about tradition, or rather the kind of family traditions and values you were brought up with.

Trying to stereotype hardy owners, dangerous! Certainly doesn't sound like me..

Although must admit to having owned 12 defenders... Oh, and an HRG for 25 years and now nearing the end of restoring a very sporty 1936 Austin 7 special...

Dooh!
 

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Trying to stereotype hardy owners, dangerous! Certainly doesn't sound like me..

Although must admit to having owned 12 defenders... Oh, and an HRG for 25 years and now nearing the end of restoring a very sporty 1936 Austin 7 special...

Dooh!

Lol......;)

got out you nailed pretty accurately then!

PS: Me and my sis have had 4 Morgans between us.
 
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[QUOTEfly625;5080718]Well it kinda is listed, that's it. The outside has not changed and IMO didn't need to. Classic design IMO. . The inside has though, massively. There maybe one at libs. One has been in build since September and if ready will be displayed.[/QUOTE]

I was hoping to see the new layout of the 32 at libs but I don't see Hardy listed as an exhibitor.
 

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More cockpit space for say fishing in the Seaward presumably?

Marginal, on 23 & 25 sewards you get engine boxes in the cockpit space to navigate, plus low free board making you feel a little more exposed.

Until you go to the 29, but then for a same age boat you are pushing double the price the Seward.
 
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[QUOTEfly625;5080718]Well it kinda is listed, that's it. The outside has not changed and IMO didn't need to. Classic design IMO. . The inside has though, massively. There maybe one at libs. One has been in build since September and if ready will be displayed.

I was hoping to see the new layout of the 32 at libs but I don't see Hardy listed as an exhibitor.[/QUOTE]

Indeed as boatone has stated Windboats will be displaying trusty models only. Their 32DS apparently is getting on well. I believe they may be using bonded windows so exterior will look more upto date. Staff at libs will
Be able to answer any questions on the 32 and I am sure serious enquiries will be invited to the factory to view their 32DS in build.
 
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More cockpit space for say fishing in the Seaward presumably?

For once I might disagree with firefly there. I have spent a lot of time in a Seaward as well as the Hardy and because so much of the Seaward is open I would say you get a lot more open deck space but at the cost of a much reduced interior space. He is definitely right about the engine boxes though, they are in effect the main seating the cockpit of the Seaward. My 6 foot friend had a 25 foot Seaward and got sick of banging his head every time he went from the cockpit to the cabin and when he saw my Hardy he sold it and bought a bigger boat altogether, read into that what you will!!
 

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Interesting thanks, the Hardy looks like it doesn't have a big enough cockpit for a few people to fish from.

OK, in retrospect, the cockpit is slightly smaller than the Seward, but its less cluttered... however personally I don't think either would be a great fishing platform for "a few people". neither Hardy or the Sewards have the beam, 2 people would be fine IMO*...

*(from someone who doesn't fish and would not allow a fish to be Landed on his boat!)
 

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OK, in retrospect, the cockpit is slightly smaller than the Seward, but its less cluttered... however personally I don't think either would be a great fishing platform for "a few people". neither Hardy or the Sewards have the beam, 2 people would be fine IMO*...

*(from someone who doesn't fish and would not allow a fish to be Landed on his boat!)

From someone who does fish (a bit and very much a novice) and was completely banjaxed by an 8 pound thornback ray arriving unexpectedly at the end of the season!! - I agree completely - 2 is fine for fishing off the Hardy - you could get a third rod off the stern but the bathing platform tends to get in the way for recovery of fish and tackle. If you are seriously just looking for a fishing platform then something like an Arvor would be nearer the mark - my Brother in law had one and it comes with bait tank, rod rests and roller for net recovery - the boat quality is nowhere near the Hardy though
 

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Difficult bit is the compromise between accommodation and fishing space without ending up with a large, expensive to run boat!
 
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