Happiness .. discuss

hi Clive- these were just examples of things that can make people happy- I feel that external things do have the potential to make people happy, but not fulfill them. As I said earlier, happiness can be a transient, but still enjoyable experience. Fulfillment takes a bit more. If we take your arguement onwards, then Bhuddism must be the best route to happiness as it does not need external posessions.

Can I have some of what you're drinking please and then I may be able to argue more coherently.

Alex

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Quoting Mill

Obviously John Stuart Mill did'nt take to Hume either cos he said "It is better to be a human being dissatisfied than a pig satisfied; better to be Socrates dissatisfied than a fool satisfied." Probably professional jealousy.

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You stand corrected

"A North Briton is a derogatory term used for a Scottish person who has sympathies for the United Kingdom. The term is no longer in common usage."

It was also the title of an important Scottish newspaper of the time which was an influential organ, much given to satirising the pompous

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Happiness is not a normal human condition. It's used by all and sundry as a carrot on a stick to sell and by politicians to attain power. You get little bursts of it sometime when sailing e.g watching a beautiful sunset, but in sailing as in life you experience ALL emotions, fear, dread, contentment, joy, elation, etc. Maybe that's why we do it. It's got to be better than sitting on your rear end, watching the box and experiencing nothing at all.

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Re: He He! Sailing as a road to Happiness

Quote "So abandon all hope, give up on ambition" ? I've just seen your bio. You're a company director. I've never met a non ambitious company director.

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As Julian Pettifer the war correspondent, replied to the question of how did he manage day to day living in a war zone. Happiness is a dry fart.

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I think you may have hit the nail on the head Bill- you can't experience happiness without something to compare it to ie you need all the other emotions.

Next thread- Bill's Life Laundry

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Happy people live longer. Fact. Well it was in that attrocious new 'compact' Times newspaper yesterday.

Donald

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Re: You have now.

So, Peps, its not a happy band of brothers but an assortment of beautiful & erudite ladies?
 
You have a point Alex - and I hear what you say reference Buddism. I find meditation a great path to contentment and dare I say it, prayer and litergy.

As to what I was on; a rather palatable Argentinian (wine that is) from a grape I've not sampled before, beginning with "B".

God, is that the time? Off to lunch with the local Rector today - one needs training for such occaisions!

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Rants by Kant

"It is not God's will merely that we should be happy, but that we should make ourselves happy "

"It is not necessary that whilst I live I live happily; but it is necessary that so long as I live I should live honourably. "

"Morality is not the doctrine of how we may make ourselves happy, but how we may make ourselves worthy of happiness."

So we've got to be honourable, worthy and then happy .. lot easier just to get drunk

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Jimi, according to neo-Freudians all our efforts, art, boating, science, are about filling the emotional/existential gap we experience when separated from the mother at birth. Happiness itself is something else – a phenomenological state largely influence by neurochemicals, esp, serotonin levels. There's some causal link between the two, but it's not obvious.



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Re: Rants by Kant

Kant Cant

You only have to be honourable and Worthy to get to happy if you think you should be Honorourable and Worthy.. 'fraid in this case I follow Samanthaism the chant "CouldaWouldaShoulda" to be used in these cases..

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Talking of Kant...

Philosophers song


Immanual Kant was a real pi**ant
Who was very rarely stable

Heidegger, Heidegger was a boozy beggar
Who could think you under the table

David Hume could out consume
Schopenhauer and Hegel

And Wittgenstein was a beery swine
Who was just as schloshed as Schlegel

There's nothing Nietzche couldn't teach ya
'Bout the raising of the wrist
Socrates, himself, was permanently pi**ed


John Stuart Mill, of his own free will
On half a pint of shandy was particularly ill

Plato they say, could stick it away
Half a crate of whiskey every day

Aristotle, Aristotle was a bu**er for the bottle
Hobbes was fond of his dram

And Rene' Descartes was a drunken fart
"I drink, therefore I am"

Yes, Socrates, himself, is particularly missed
A lovely little thinker
But a bu**er when he's pi**ed


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