Hanse - where do they sit on the quality scale?

Hmm - 9/10 for styling but maybe we need to give them time to establish a reliabilty/quality rating.

When I looked at their deck gear, I was worried by the mainsheet traveller being so far forward, away from the cockpit and control by a short-handed crew.

But that's just a personal prejudice.
 
Boreades said:
Hmm - 9/10 for styling but maybe we need to give them time to establish a reliabilty/quality rating.

When I looked at their deck gear, I was worried by the mainsheet traveller being so far forward, away from the cockpit and control by a short-handed crew.

But that's just a personal prejudice.
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They seem to lack adequate hand holds, jack stays etc.
 
MoodyNick said:
On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being excellent, where do Hanse sit?

Assuming Oyster is 10 ish
Swedish boats 8 - 9
Moody 6-7,

all IMHO of course.

(I wont offend owners of the boats I think are down in the 1-3 range)
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Agree having spend numerous weeks on a 400...

stainless that rust's within weeks. poor joinery stampled togeather.... bavaria quality ! however they do sail very well.... something to do with a huge main.

don't swap the muddy for one
 
I looked and smaller Hanse - was not impressed with the internals or finish in general - would put it on par with current Bav finishing for 'attention to detail' but I understand they sail well....
 
I know someone who own's a 400 did one Atlantic circuit with numerous troubles and on return the surveyor said it was unfit for sea. That was a brand new boat.
furniture moving, bulkheads cracked, rusting stainless on arrival in the Canaries and a forestay attachment that was moving. Hanse refused to accept that there was a problem (allegedly)
 
On the one hand......As it were. Maybe more.



I did read that epoxy built Hanses are available for little more than the fibreglass ones. That does seem a significant step forward and a useful bit of 'future proofing'.
 
Having owned a new 400 for just over a year I can say that although I have had a few teething problems I am more then satisfied with my Hanse, The few problems mentioned where quickly dealt with by the dealer.
It is a production boat and that is reflected in the quality against the more bespoke models, however it is also reflected in the price
 
Personally I think it is nice to see most Hanse with a coloured hull. Makes a change from the usual white.
I too have third hand reports of problems with them falling apart after longish trips. Probably ok for normal use of a few weeks a year and half a dozen weekends.
I was not impressed when I looked down below at the boat shows. Very much an MFI feel.
I would rate Bavaria higher.
In saying that I have sailed a number of brand new boats in recent years and have to say the interiors are getting worse and worse.
The latest, Sun Odyssey 37 will not last one season before it starts to look very tired down below.
Quick example: Doors, the edging around the doors is glued on. A fraction of an overlap results in the trim getting caught and broken off.
 
I'd agree that Bav's are better built than Hanse, I have sailed both, however the Hanse (371) did sail very well, I did a non stop Portsmouth to Cork on one. That particular boat, having done a respectable few sea miles in mixed conditions was starting to show her age. The boat at 7 years old, the owner commented recently that my Etap was in far better condition, even being 10 years older. The Hanse has recently been sold as its condition was going to start to get expensive. The boat went abroad.

Nick, dont buy one.
 
MoodyNick said:
On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being excellent, where do Hanse sit?

Assuming Oyster is 10 ish
Swedish boats 8 - 9
Moody 6-7,

all IMHO of course.

(I wont offend owners of the boats I think are down in the 1-3 range)
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How can one make a judgement based on a single criterion (that in itself is almost impossible to define) on a linear scale of 1 to 10 and then set the boundaries with a subjective assessment of comparitors?

Are you selling your Moody because you want something similar but newer? In which case an HR or Malo would do you nicely, but you would be disappointed with a Hanse. If on the other hand you were selling it because you have got bored with older heavy, boring boats that are starting to cost serious money to keep up to scratch - then a Hanse might be on your list, along with an Elan, sportier Jeanneaus and Bennys, plus if you have deep pockets a number of the performance orientated Scandinavian boats such as Arconas and Sweden Yachts - or for a bit of Italian panache a Grand Soleil!

The point is that you need to decide on what you want out of a boat and how much you are prepared to pay and this sort of sets your shortlist. Single figure rankings are meaningless - even YM has 10 areas (none of which is "quality") to score boats.

Hanse is at the "budget" end (based on £ per measure of size). It tries to differentiate itself nowadays by being performance orientated compared, say with Bavaria. However today's Hanse is very different from those of 10 years ago, so any judgement about "quality" then is meaningless if you are buying a new boat. Hanses are the leaders in the "flat pack" boat interiors so will come as a shock after a Moody. On the other hand they do have "prescence" - after all Eddy Jordan has a 53 as a toy for when he gets bored with his 130ft Sunseeker, but still wants to cut a dash!
 
Whilst I agree - it is difficult to pidgeon a brand within a single 1-10 criteria - it is quite clear what Nick is after ... he's after how we would overall rate a Hanse compared to other makes - quite a simple and straight forward question - and he has had some pretty comprehensive answers with little confusion!
 
galadriel said:
I'd agree that Bav's are better built than Hanse, I have sailed both, however the Hanse (371) did sail very well, I did a non stop Portsmouth to Cork on one. That particular boat, having done a respectable few sea miles in mixed conditions was starting to show her age. The boat at 7 years old, the owner commented recently that my Etap was in far better condition, even being 10 years older. The Hanse has recently been sold as its condition was going to start to get expensive. The boat went abroad.

Nick, dont buy one.
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+1

The interior finish and consistency on the boats I have seen at the shows has been pretty shocking. Way worse than Bavaria.


Nice to look at.. but flawed.
 
MoodyNick said:
On a scale of 1 to 10, 10 being excellent, where do Hanse sit?
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The question is too open, all brands have their bad years and/or problematic designs or bizarre interior design aberrations.

Some brands will be in growth mode and so get the benefit of doubt because the main points of reference are brochures and magazine tests, other brands are so old the original foibles and manufacturing screw-ups have been fixed and forgiven.

You will get better feedback asking about a specific model/year.
 
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