Hamble School of Yachting....

[pvb]

Just watched one of their boats leave the pontoon in the marina at night, with no navigation lights. Saw them in the lock and commented on their rather different approach to night sailing. Got quizzical response. Suggested nav lights might be an idea. Frantic scrambling, lights switched on, but they didn't all work. The "instructor" said it didn't matter, he'd replace the bulb tomorrow. So off they went. And people pay good money for this standard of RYA tuition...

 

[Lucky Duck]

Long way from home, maybe they were lost?

 

[capnsensible]

Nothing like using a small incident to try and smear a whole organisation, is there?

 

[alant]

Nothing like using a small incident to try and smear a whole organisation, is there?

From my dealings over many years, they are a very professional & well organised outfit.

(Perhaps the incident was part of a teaching scenario).

 

[dom]

Suggested nav lights might be an idea. Frantic scrambling, lights switched on, but they didn't all work. The "instructor" said it didn't matter, he'd replace the bulb tomorrow.

Technically he's right, a ship can only come from one side at a time

 

[capnsensible]

Technically he's right, a ship can only come from one side at a time

Two ships.......:ambivalence:

 

[capnsensible]

From my dealings over many years, they are a very professional & well organised outfit.

(Perhaps the incident was part of a teaching scenario).

Agree. First school I ever worked for.

 

[Graham376]

From my dealings over many years, they are a very professional & well organised outfit.

(Perhaps the incident was part of a teaching scenario).

Did some courses with them 20+ years ago plus some own boat tuition, excellent training and service.

 

[dom]

Two ships.......:ambivalence:

Oh yeh, forgot, it’s lightening then that never strikes the same place twice

 

[kayenox]

Agree with posters above about Hamble School of Yachting. Did my Yachtmaster Coastal with them a while back, found the boats in a good state, excellent instructor and generally well organised. Is the OP saying he's never forgotten to switch nav lights on or made a mistake? I know I've forgotten nav lights for a while in the transition from dusk to dark. And I don't think a sarcastic comment helps - a simple "your nav lights aren't on" would have been more welcome. The instructors response was probably a slightly narked sarcastic comment back...

 

[Deleted member 36384]

I have worked on a few yachts that were also RYA approved sailing school yachts, they carried emergency navigation lights, disposable battery operated. I don't know if it is a requirement for MCA Coding or RYA registration or just considered good practise. I have an inclination that it is a coding requirement, any one know?

 

[dom]

And I don't think a sarcastic comment helps - a simple "your nav lights aren't on" would have been more welcome. The instructors response was probably a slightly narked sarcastic comment back...

Hey, lighten up, the English language is built around little indirect quips like this: think about when someone forgets to zip up their pants, or gets a new haircut ......

 

[lw395]

I have worked on a few yachts that were also RYA approved sailing school yachts, they carried emergency navigation lights, disposable battery operated. I don't know if it is a requirement for MCA Coding or RYA registration or just considered good practise. I have an inclination that it is a coding requirement, any one know?

For some racing, it used to be mandatory to carry either back-up battery lights or dual fitted lights. Normally met by having a Tricolour as well as bicolour bow + stern available. Spare bulbs required to be carried too AFAIK.

The OP saw the boat, no drama really.

There's no point naming and shaming the school for a blown bulb, the same instructor could be working for their rivals next week.

 

[capnsensible]

Oh yeh, forgot, it’s lightening then that never strikes the same place twice

Three ships.

 

[capnsensible]

I have worked on a few yachts that were also RYA approved sailing school yachts, they carried emergency navigation lights, disposable battery operated. I don't know if it is a requirement for MCA Coding or RYA registration or just considered good practise. I have an inclination that it is a coding requirement, any one know?

https://assets.publishing.service.g.../uploads/attachment_data/file/285649/blue.pdf

 

[dom]

Three ships.

Now I understand why Christmas trees have so many lights! : 4 calling birds, 5 gold rings, 6 geese a-laying, 7 swans a-swimming, 8 maids a-milking, 9 ladies dancing, 10 lords a-leaping, 11 pipers piping, 12 drummers drumming, and a..........

 

[capnsensible]

Now I understand why Christmas trees have so many lights! : 4 calling birds, 5 gold rings, 6 geese a-laying, 7 swans a-swimming, 8 maids a-milking, 9 ladies dancing, 10 lords a-leaping, 11 pipers piping, 12 drummers drumming, and a..........

Vessel under tow with a length exceeding 200 metres restricted in its ability to manoeuvre?

 

[dom]

Vessel under tow with a length exceeding 200 metres restricted in its ability to manoeuvre?

Only a problem for posh trees with all-white lights

 

[alant]

The Cowes Harbour Master, used to often contact UKSA, asking "are you fishing or trawling tonight", when a returning student boat came in having forgotten to turn tricolour light off (sailing), before switching nav/steaming light (power driven vessel) on.

 

[Dutch01527]

Once saw a American Navy ship leaving a South Pacific Harbour passing us(cargo ship at anchor) with no nav lights on. Our ships master called them on the vhf to inform them. Response from the American Officer was arrogant “ we are the US Navy, of course we have our lights on”. The lights were switched on about 30 seconds later but no further vhf contact. Someone probably was court marshalled that night.