Halfords Portable Gas Stove £8

[Heckler]

There is absolutely nothing wrong with these as long as they are sensibly used - which includes having an LPG detector if they are used in a cabin. If they were as dangerous as the hysterical skirt-gatherers seem to think, they'd have been banned shortly after the manufacturers, importers and retailers were sued out of existence.

Indeed! The biggest issue is I believe that it becomes undone at the threaded connector bit if not tightened correctly.
We could take the tooth sucking elf and safety bit to the nth degree and ban all threaded gas connector bits on boats!

 

[Greenheart]

We bought ours for tenting, about eight years ago. It is used intensively for a few weeks each year, then sits in our dripping garage...

...it has never leaked, never failed to start when required, and cannot fall over like the old cylinder-top designs.

I believe a few of the very early ones (of the new, flat rectangular design) suffered from not having anything to prevent ignition until the cylinder was precisely aligned with the pipe it supplies. That gave the design a bad name which it hasn't deserved for years.

 

[JumbleDuck]

i have seen gimbled single burners with the small GC bottle slung under which acts as a counterbalance

I had one of those on my Jouster - they were standard fitting on smaller Westerlies. As long as you keep the sealing washers on each side of the connection (it's like a banjo) they work well and have fewer connections and no hose compared to a standard fitting. I'd cheerfully use one again.

 

[johnlilley]

I think what might be overlooked is that in the case of an incident aboard a vessel & it caught fire as a direct result of a gas fault, it this was proven & the insurance survey that may exist, warned of gas storage aboard the vessel not up to current safety standards you might find that the insurers can legitimately decline any claim, and even worse if it caused other boats to be damaged there is no guarantee that the owner of the vessel responsible will not find themselves facing other claims. The insurers may also decline irrespective of an existing survey because they can take the stance that an owner is not insured for perceived safety issues which they should have been aware of. Not too dissimilar to not being insured in the event of a car accident that was caused by illegal or worn tyres on your own vehicle. I am sure some legal eagles here might have more informed view on this.

 

[Heckler]

These things have no place on boats. There are regularly accidents with them.

There have been frequent warnings about them from the Boat Safety Scheme people .

https://www.boatsafetyscheme.org/search/?q=portable+gas+stoves

Ah, the Canal and River Trust,
The Boat Safety Scheme, or BSS, is a public safety initiative owned by the Canal & River Trust and the Environment Agency. Its purpose is to help minimise the risk of boat fires, explosions, or pollution harming visitors to the inland waterways, the waterways' workforce and any other users.
What have they to do with sea going boats?

 

[Heckler]

I think what might be overlooked is that in the case of an incident aboard a vessel & it caught fire as a direct result of a gas fault, it this was proven & the insurance survey that may exist, warned of gas storage aboard the vessel not up to current safety standards you might find that the insurers can legitimately decline any claim, and even worse if it caused other boats to be damaged there is no guarantee that the owner of the vessel responsible will not find themselves facing other claims. The insurers may also decline irrespective of an existing survey because they can take the stance that an owner is not insured for perceived safety issues which they should have been aware of. Not too dissimilar to not being insured in the event of a car accident that was caused by illegal or worn tyres on your own vehicle. I am sure some legal eagles here might have more informed view on this.

And how did we get to insurance surveys etc?
The op never mentioned anything about that!

 

[JumbleDuck]

I think what might be overlooked is that in the case of an incident aboard a vessel & it caught fire as a direct result of a gas fault, it this was proven & the insurance survey that may exist, warned of gas storage aboard the vessel not up to current safety standards you might find that the insurers can legitimately decline any claim, and even worse if it caused other boats to be damaged there is no guarantee that the owner of the vessel responsible will not find themselves facing other claims. The insurers may also decline irrespective of an existing survey because they can take the stance that an owner is not insured for perceived safety issues which they should have been aware of. Not too dissimilar to not being insured in the event of a car accident that was caused by illegal or worn tyres on your own vehicle. I am sure some legal eagles here might have more informed view on this.

There is nothing, absolutely nothing, for which "it might invalidate your insurance" is sometimes trotted out. Care to tell us which clause in your policy forbids you to carry a camping stove?

Oh, and having illegal or bald tyres on your car does not invalidate your third party insurance.

 

[AngusMcDoon]

https://www.halfords.com/camping-le...table-gas-stove-new?_br_psugg_q=camoing+stove

Was £20

Also . Butane cartridges 4 for £5.

Good for backup or whatever. I use them all the time now in tandem with
a fire/co alarm.

You can get these stoves with flame failure devices which makes them safer to use on a boat, but you have to spend a bit more. That one is not one with the flame failure device fitted.

 

[salar]

These stoves are used safely by the hundreds of thousands, if not millions worldwide. Yes there have been accidents due to neglect and user mistakes, as with every other stove on the market I would imagine. They are also supplied as standard by a number of boat manufacturers. There will always be someone who will point to a safety issue and for them I will say - take sandwiches then, much safer but be careful swallowing because people have been known to choke. And by the way stay on land. You can drown at sea

 

[Heckler]

These stoves are used safely by the hundreds of thousands, if not millions worldwide. Yes there have been accidents due to neglect and user mistakes, as with every other stove on the market I would imagine. They are also supplied as standard by a number of boat manufacturers. There will always be someone who will point to a safety issue and for them I will say - take sandwiches then, much safer but be careful swallowing because people have been known to choke. And by the way stay on land. You can drown at sea

Exactly!

 

[doug748]

You do need to exercise a bit of discretion, as with many things.

On another tack, I used one of these for many years, on a smaller boat:

https://www.millets.co.uk/equipment/114534-trangia-aluminium-25-2-cooker-and-kettle.html

In fact I used it this weekend. That would be my pick, just saying like.

 

[Kukri]

Umm. I bought one of these at Seamark Nunn for my sons to use when camp cruising in their Squib.

I am now very uneasy, as of course there is no gas detector and to get it to light you need to use it on the bottom boards.

 

[salar]

Umm. I bought one of these at Seamark Nunn for my sons to use when camp cruising in their Squib.

I am now very uneasy, as of course there is no gas detector and to get it to light you need to use it on the bottom boards.

It's an open boat - how long do you think any spilled gas (if there is any) will stay around??

 

[JumbleDuck]

Umm. I bought one of these at Seamark Nunn for my sons to use when camp cruising in their Squib.

I am now very uneasy, as of course there is no gas detector and to get it to light you need to use it on the bottom boards.

No issue at all in an open boat. Propane isn't treacle - it diffuses at a reasonable speed through air and even slight currents in the Squib will rapidly dissipate it.