GX 2150 in the UK?

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I'm trying to 'find' a dealer in Europe who has the GX 2150 AIS/DSC/VHF radio that I'm after? I've emailed Standard Horizon asking for their help, but they've not gotten back to me yet (possibly because I've only just done it :rolleyes:). So, do any forum members know of a European dealer with this radio? Ebay have them with a price and postage from the USA of around about £290-£300, without any duty which may be payable on top of that, making it less irresistable than the GX 2100.
 
When I asked Standard Horizon about these being supplied in Europe the reply was that they were not prepared to spend the cost for type approval certification. But I wonder if at some time they might have to drop the 2100 as it would seem sensible to manufacture a single model.
 
jamie N said:
I'm trying to 'find' a dealer in Europe who has the GX 2150 AIS/DSC/VHF radio that I'm after? I've emailed Standard Horizon asking for their help, but they've not gotten back to me yet (possibly because I've only just done it :rolleyes:). So, do any forum members know of a European dealer with this radio? Ebay have them with a price and postage from the USA of around about £290-£300, without any duty which may be payable on top of that, making it less irresistable than the GX 2100.
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Hi Jamie

Not sure why you want the GX2150, but the man to talk to at SH is Sam Ruddy sam.ruddy@yaesu.co.uk

Very helpfull guy and always responded promptly to my e-mails.

I bought the GX2100E (£284.95) together with a SH 300i plotter (£519.94) and very pleased with it from here:- http://www.marinechandlery.com/elec...0e-fixed-dsc-radio-with-integral-ais-receiver

Mike
 
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Caer Urfa said:
Not sure why you want the GX2150
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It's something to do with the combination of NMEA inputs and outputs. There's a common configuration that the original 2100 makes awkward - once people started complaining about this they released the 2150 to fix it. Can't exactly remember the details; I think it may have been sending position sentences on the 38400-baud line so you only needed one spare port on the plotter.

Pete
 
Caer Urfa said:
Yes it explains here, but at the end of the day is it so important !
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Well, it is if you have a plotter with a single NMEA input. If you wanted to use all the features of the shiny new radio you'd just bought, you'd have to shell out £120 or so on top for a multiplexer box to fix a problem that should have occurred to the people designing it in the first place.

I'm connecting mine up to a dedicated Vesper Watchmate display, though, instead of a plotter, so the 2100 is fine for me.

EDIT: The other change they added was to let you use the foghorn and the AIS display at the same time. Because when do you really need AIS the most? That's right, in fog. The original version would not let you look at AIS while using the foghorn.

Pete
 
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Many thanks for the responses. The 2150 appears to be easier integrate with other devices, specifically my Nav PC. The item does seem to be a 2100 Mk.2 with enhancements to the original. If the 2150 is available at a reasonable cost in the UK, all well and good. If not, the 2100 does tick many boxes for us anyway.
 
Sam Ruddy has 'just' responded to my direct enquiry, explaining the issues which prevent the 2150 being sold in the European market. The docs that he sent me are copied below.
This is slightly frustrating to me in thwarting an established company from selling a piece of kit in a large marketplace. I must say that I was impressed with the response from SH and Sam Ruddy though.

GX2150 IN EUROPE


Due to the high costs of approval there are no plans to make the GX2150 available in Europe and the UK. The demand for this model is not sufficient as the GX2100E used with 3rd party NMEA0183 multiplexers can provide the same connectivity as the GX2150.

US MARINE VHF USE IN EUROPEAN WATERS.


Standard Horizon products marine VHF radios manufactured to FCC specification for USA market are not approved for use in Europe.
FCC and CE approvals are different, with European approvals are more stringent than USA with immunity, radiated limits in terms of SAR (absorption of radio waves by the human body) and safety standard being more difficult to pass in Europe.

These requirements add additional cost to the European product.
However this extra cost results in a product that has a better immunity against external transmissions and lower radiated emissions.

It is against the law in the UK and Europe to use a non CE approved product.
Also if the radio has DSC calling with access to emergency services, it is also an offence to put into use a product, which does not have an applicable approval.
This is covered under Article 3.3e of the European R&TTE directive. FCC approval does not convey such approval

There is no worldwide warranty on these products; therefore, any problems with the unit will require return of the unit to the USA.
Also normally we do not support in any way a US Marine VHF as it may be seen as encouraging the use of non CE approved marine equipment.

Marina Channels; The USA marine VHF as standard does not have our Marine channels M (37) and M2 fitted. These channels cannot be activated by the user; they have to be computer programmed by special software and programming equipment.
Finally if you are planning to travel through European waterways you will need to use a system called ATIS. ATIS (Automatic Transmitter Identification System) mode is a signalling protocol used on the inland waterways of Europe that enables the authorities to identify each transmission. From January 2009 the relevant authorities of each country have insisted on all vessels having ATIS Mode enabled on their radios.
Only approved European radios have the facility for the user to enable and disable ATIS mode and program your ATIS number
 
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