Guest Etiquette when Cruising

[maby]

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Are people put off going on holiday to greece where that's been the general rule for accommodation on the islands for as long as I've been going and presumably long before?

I've never had any interest in going to Greece but even if I really wanted to, the requirement to bag up loo paper would be enough to stop me. Given that we are marina dwellers, the loo on our boat seldom gets used for solid waste, but the rule there is only bodily waste plus moderate amounts of Thetford Soluable Toilet Paper.

 

[Wansworth]

Possible market for toilets that wash bottoms,would be a great idea

 

[maby]

Surely the thing that preceded the toilet paper is worse?

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Indeed - this has always seemed like a stupid justification for the "bag up the soiled loo roll" rule.

 

[maby]

Possible market for toilets that wash bottoms,would be a great idea

Indeed! I will design one... Needs a catchy name - how about "bidet"?

 

[capnsensible]

I would not sail on a vessel with this absurd, unhygenic and disgusting stipulation.
Just out of interest, what is the supposed justification?

Nothing supposed about it. The outlet pipes are prone to blocking. Its pointless telling the odd few squeamers this every time this topic comes up. But most sailors of every other nationality than Brit realise how daft putting tissue down the heads is.

 

[Daydream believer]

Most of the time, whilst in port, the crew- when I have any- use the port facilities.
At night paper goes down the loo in modified intervals with lots of pumping. The rule is "Pump whilst you dump" & is carefully explained to all visitors.
In some area the blackwater tank is used & either pumped at sea or the port pump out facilities
Seems to work OK. I have clear flexible pipe at the outlet & can " manipulate" buildup if I keep a regular check and I have a couple of "compression cramps" fitted to do the manipulating

 

[Ohlin Karcher]

Nothing supposed about it. The outlet pipes are prone to blocking. Its pointless telling the odd few squeamers this every time this topic comes up. But most sailors of every other nationality than Brit realise how daft putting tissue down the heads is.

My 70-yr old Blakes never blocks, and is properly plumbed in to the sea.
Apologies, I do forget that many plastic boats have poor installations, and little plastic toilets :encouragement:

 

[capnsensible]

My 70-yr old Blakes never blocks, and is properly plumbed in to the sea.
Apologies, I do forget that many plastic boats have poor installations, and little plastic toilets :encouragement:

Indeed they do and are in the vast majority. When subjected to a lot of use over extended periods, the design problems reveal themselves. But as there is little alternative all people like me can do is explain that after the umpteenth time of asking people not to put tissue down the head and having to deal with the consequences, is use opportunities like this to promote a bin and hygeneic liner. :encouragement:

 

[johnalison]

Not for me. I have never had a blockage from paper in 45 yrs and I have yet to meet a fellow-sailor who has. The nearest I've heard was a friend who bought an ex-demo Island Packet and suffered a severe blockage in huge complicated system. This turned out to be from a kitchen wipe from its previous ownership.

We use ordinary cheapo loo paper and don't fret about it, whether or not we use the holding tank. Normal Jabsco loo.

We were given some loo paper last Christmas. It turned out not be so odd as it sounds. It was made by 'Who gives a crap?'. Half the profits go to a charity building loos in the third world and the paper is made from bamboo. It is excellent paper, being soft and strong. I did a wet test and it disintegrated.

 

[scrambledegg]

We were given some loo paper last Christmas./QUOTE]

I hope it was from somebody who loved you

 

[capnsensible]

Not for me. I have never had a blockage from paper in 45 yrs and I have yet to meet a fellow-sailor who has.

You must have read on here about shedloads who have tho. If you like, I can lend you half a dozen or so of the ones Ive met.

 

[RupertW]

Nothing supposed about it. The outlet pipes are prone to blocking. Its pointless telling the odd few squeamers this every time this topic comes up. But most sailors of every other nationality than Brit realise how daft putting tissue down the heads is.

Agreed - if you didn’t eat it it doesn’t go in. Brits are weird in flushing paper on a boat bit for blockages and seeing the awful way paper wraps around rocks and weeds when you are snorkelling or swimming.

We moved to compostable bags as pedal bin liners for our loos so the whole thing doesn’t add to plastic pollution.

I’d be happy to exclude any guests who’d rather not use the loo that way but they would the type who’d enjoy boating and swimming around the kind of countries that have warm clear water. Not that the water is quite as warm now I’ve arrived in Lanzarote.

 

[capnsensible]

Agreed - if you didn’t eat it it doesn’t go in. Brits are weird in flushing paper on a boat bit for blockages and seeing the awful way paper wraps around rocks and weeds when you are snorkelling or swimming.

We moved to compostable bags as pedal bin liners for our loos so the whole thing doesn’t add to plastic pollution.

I’d be happy to exclude any guests who’d rather not use the loo that way but they would the type who’d enjoy boating and swimming around the kind of countries that have warm clear water. Not that the water is quite as warm now I’ve arrived in Lanzarote.

Not warm, but very clear! Whereabouts in Lanzarote?

 

[Kukri]

My 70-yr old Blakes never blocks, and is properly plumbed in to the sea.
Apologies, I do forget that many plastic boats have poor installations, and little plastic toilets :encouragement:

I can state that a Baby will pass an entire disposable nappy, and its contents, but a Blakes seacock will not. (The mother of my children had a moment of absent mindedness, some years ago...)

 

[Ohlin Karcher]

I can state that a Baby will pass an entire disposable nappy, and its contents, but a Blakes seacock will not. (The mother of my children had a moment of absent mindedness, some years ago...)

A fine endorsement!

 

[johnalison]

You must have read on here about shedloads who have tho. If you like, I can lend you half a dozen or so of the ones Ive met.

No thanks. I imagine that the smell still lingers on them.

My previously-mentioned paper was gift from friends of our daughter. She is a recently retired GP and the couple are both Germans who have adopted an English life but have failed to leave behind a very Teutonic sense of duty and worthiness. I think that we managed to accept the two rolls, his and hers, with due decorum and acknowledgement of their good intentions.

 

[shaunksb]

We use that expensive eco friendly bio degradable loo paper from the chandlers.

That’ll wipe the smile off your face...

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[Ohlin Karcher]

No thanks. I imagine that the smell still lingers on them.

My previously-mentioned paper was gift from friends of our daughter. She is a recently retired GP and the couple are both Germans who have adopted an English life but have failed to leave behind a very Teutonic sense of duty and worthiness. I think that we managed to accept the two rolls, his and hers, with due decorum and acknowledgement of their good intentions.

Astonishing!
'Ah so, Herr Alison, how iz ze gifts ve voz giving?'
'Delightful, every time we use them we are reminded of you!'

 

[rotrax]

First Mate and I have some old and dear friends and it is creepy how many times we have exchanged the same items as Christmas Presents.

I sourced some loo paper in Slovakia with a bright yellow wrapper embossed in virulent green writing "FANNY".

They got a couple of Fanny rolls for Christmas.

In return, purely coincidentaly, we got, fresh from their recent shopping trip to New York, a toilet roll with Bin Ladens face on every sheet and the intruction to "Help Wipe Out Terrorism"

We have an excellent Raritan heads, full size. Paper will go down easily but we use a scented bag meant for nappies which is disposed of responsibly.

To ALL the naysayers, THERE IS NO SMELL!

Well, not unless you stick your head in the bag and breathe in-which, of course, we dont!

 

[johnalison]

Astonishing!
'Ah so, Herr Alison, how iz ze gifts ve voz giving?'
'Delightful, every time we use them we are reminded of you!'

They are indeed a strange couple, but not without a certain charm. Her father was an archbishop in Germany and her husband is a nurse-educator. They are heavily into horses and beekeeping and have rejected their original country.

It's the thought that counts. I think.