Great Debate - Should the fate of red diesel be decided in Europe?

When delivering small packets, do you

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No worries Chris.

Short of pounding the pavement, this kind of debate is the best way to find out what's going on in boaters' heads. Keep it coming (plus, it brings people back to vote).
 
Exactly, we should be part of a wider economic grouping, but we already are, its called the common market and most people support it. Similar free trade agreements exist in all areas of the globe and they generally bring prosperity and an improved quality of life to the countries that participate, because they are focused on removing beaurocracy in trade between sovereign countries. What is different here is the grand social experiment of the EU, which has far more to do with politicians desires to leave a lasting legacy, which increases not decreases beaurocracy, and which restricts individual countries ability to govern in the way that their populations demand.

Whoops, I think this may be getting a little off topic
 
Careful Dave, when a Stan Rogers sent that poem to this local council to reinforce the need to speak up, he got a visit from the local police and warned about his harassment of council officials.

Link here.
 
Airgun Sport?

"The defination of a depression is when you are out of work."
Is that why the number one subject searched for down under on Google is depression and that one in twenty* people claiming to be aussie choose to live elsewhere /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
*Wikipedia.The Australian Diaspora.. and only a minor numbers massage.
 
I suspect I will be (just a bit) in the minority on this one, but like it or not, we are all Europeans now...........

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Im not and never will be !!!
 
Im not and never will be !!!

And I've been itching to say that for ages , I am not a European , I am British . Maybe we can't pull out of this fiasco , but if the French don't agree with a proposal , they tell them to p off , and do what they want anyway
 
With this and your last post I think you're having a girafe. Just trying to wind the majority of us up. Good europeans my arse.

We used to be free due to limits placed on the power of government. These limits have been eroded and governments across the world have grown enormously in size and power. EU government being the most outrageous.

We need less government. Governments never create wealth, the people do. The governments only job is to create an environment in which people can flourish. Ie, get out of the way and leave us alone !

Petrolia
 
"We need less government"
With you all the way.Which example of an african country did you have a wish to emulate then,me I would go for perhaps Sudan or praaps Somalia or Iraq as fine examples. /forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
Yes oldgit. I don't think you get it. Didn't you read this bit ?

"The governments only job is to create an environment in which people can flourish."

Why can't we emulate the country we had before successive recent 'Governments' screwed it up ?


Petrolia
 
With you on that. Guess the boys and girls in Westminster have forgotten why they are there. About time they got back to the business of running the country efficiently and cost effectively as GB PLC should be. They seem to find more and more ways to spend OUR money doing things we don't want or wasting it on harebrained schemes that no will ever use or more bureacrats on fat salaries and protected pensions whilst the wealth creating private sector suffers. And before I get flamed, I can say that cos I was in Local Government for over a decade and there were people in there who thought a hard days work was moving coffee cup around the desk. I have worked harder and longer hours since going to private sector work that I ever did before and I resent my wages, everything I buy and even my savings being taxed to fund a load of wastrels who wouldn't know a hard day if it bit them on the arse. Look at Prescott throwing his toys out the pram cos Bliar (spelling mistake intended!) wants him to give up Dorneywood. What does this guy actually do..... A burden on people like us.

In truth, we could halve the size of central and local government, make them work like the private sector and transfer a lot of functions to private companies who could do it cheaper, more efficiently and 99% of the time better.

Any private company that wasted money like central government do would be bankrupt in a week.

Sack em and find some that can do the job properly and actually want to be there to represent the people rather than themselves.

As to European government......dont even think about getting me started on that one. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif

JH
 
"Wasn't the entire British Empire operated by just 450 Foreign Office civil servants? "
And one or two chaps who took the kings shilling may have helped a tad.
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"Why can't we emulate the country we had before successive recent 'Governments' screwed it up ?"
Would this be pre Roman or Norman rule you had in mind. /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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