gooseneck to boom attachment

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The more i think about this the sillier it seems, but I have a 22ft pandora with a gooseneck connection that seems designed to spin the boom, which may be some sort of furler for the main, or may just be a feature without practical benefit (on this boat it would not surprise me). There is nothing mechanically attaching the boom to the mast other than the pin (split, almost dolly-peg shaped) which inserts into the boom, and pulls out just as easily. No clip, closure or screw, nor any obvious place for a line other than the kicker which goes to a block at the base of the mast. Surely the uplift of the main and the topping lift isn't enough to secure the boom? There is no obvious hole for a pin or connector- so what am i missing?

Pics in a day or so if needed.

thanks!
 
It will be little different to dinghy fitting . Holt Allen supplied the OEM mast

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http://www.allenbrothers.co.uk/item.asp?cat_id=3&prod_id=47
 
That looks exactly right, down to the X screw. So is it entirely unattached other than through lines or is there a lock of any sort on the gooseneck?
Nice to see spares are (relatively) cheap at least!

Thank you both for your speedy response. This may be a duplicate as my initial reply disappeared!
 
It's not just the main. The kicker will also retain the boom, unless completely slack.

I have a similar set up and when I'd left the kicker slack overnight I found the boom had come loose in the morning after a bit of a blow. Annoyingly the mainsheet is a long way aft of the boom end so also tends to pull the boom out a bit.

Likewise the boom looks like it might have been a roller boom and the boat is from the era when these were at their zenith in the mid to late '70s. With a very round profile and the mainsheet fitting on a kind of swivel. The gooseneck on mine isn't original and the current one isn't dissimilar to the OP's. The kicker looks almost retro-fitted, but I don't know what would have been used in its place if I'm correct.

Possibly because the boom may have been set up for roller reefing (or maybe not), the gate is quite high up the mast - You have to pop a couple of slides to reef - which means you don't need much slack in the kicker to get the 2 or 3 inches of movement required.

Similarly to the OP I'm a bit undecided on it, but it's working for me so far I just mostly leave the kicker anyway because it's awkward to get to.
 
If it's a dinghy fitting, it'll be designed to allow you to remove the boom easily. On a Pandora, I'm guessing this feature isn't needed as long as there's another way to remove the boom when you need to. If it's once or twice a year, needing a spanner isn't an issue.

In that case, I'd be inclined to see if it's practicable to put a bolt through the boom and the gooseneck tongue. If not, I'd consider epoxying it in place.
 
One of the dinghies I sail was prone to the boom coming off when the kicker was slack.
We used either put a pit through the boom and tongue, or simply tie the tack of the main around the mast.
We now have a gooseneck more like a typical yacht fitting, the vertical pivot pin is a drop nose pin.
 
If it's a dinghy fitting, it'll be designed to allow you to remove the boom easily. On a Pandora, I'm guessing this feature isn't needed as long as there's another way to remove the boom when you need to. If it's once or twice a year, needing a spanner isn't an issue.

In that case, I'd be inclined to see if it's practicable to put a bolt through the boom and the gooseneck tongue. If not, I'd consider epoxying it in place.

many day sailers would roll the main around the boom & stow the whole lot below decks
 
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