harbourforce
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A dilapidated empty riverside warehouse is about to make way for 45 new homes in Mistley.
Good news for Mistley Quay
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NUTMEG
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Tomahawk
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You have highlighted the issue .. Indeed hit the nail on the head..
Yes at the moment you can sit and enjoy the view from the quay as you have done for many years.. But you are sitting on an artificial structure that is being eaten away by the forces of nature. In some time in the medium future, there will be a storm, a bit of rain and the quayside will collapse onto the river. At that point someone will have to clear up the debris, or the navigation will be blocked.
Now you are taking big money whichever way it goes......
Either the owners pay the maintenance of the quay so yu can sit on it and enjoy the view but get nothing back because the quay is now a listed structure and they can't develop it to pay for the upkeep... Or they pay for the clean up after the quay collapses. In whichncase the owners will probably have moved the lroperty into an offshore company that can't be traced back to UK residents...
Whichever way... the auay will now fail unless the good locals club together and buy it from the owners... But they should not be getting the property at a knock down price...
LittleSister
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Surely if it were such a liability the price would not be great, and no 'knock down' needed?
Tomahawk
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Local campaigners have managed to get it listed... It is the listing that increases the liability and hence reduces the value. The people who campaigned to list someone elses property have imposed the financial burden they have created for another... Yet they seldom come forward and say...
Now we have managed to list it, we will take on the financial responsibility and we will buy it for the full price the owner bought it for....
Oldgeezer
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I think you've missed what listing is all about!
If the owners want to use it as a quay there is nothing to stop them - after all, it is a quay. If they want to put some infrastructure on the quay to help in its use as a quay, then listing will not stop them, but it will make sure that it is in keeping with the historical fabric of the quay. Listing will not alter its monetary value, although it does require you to maintain the property. Surely that's what we all do with our property, listed or not?
All buildings eventually decay - listed or not. Whether in 100 years or 500. If unmaintained I suspect Mistley Quay will crumble (although it hasn't in the last 240 years since it was built). Whether the current 'owners' are still around or not, future generations will still be able to appreciate it as it has the protection this generation has afforded it to stop it being demolished or wrecked.
Do you really think English Heritage should buy every property they list?
If the owners want to use it as a quay there is nothing to stop them - after all, it is a quay. If they want to put some infrastructure on the quay to help in its use as a quay, then listing will not stop them, but it will make sure that it is in keeping with the historical fabric of the quay. Listing will not alter its monetary value, although it does require you to maintain the property. Surely that's what we all do with our property, listed or not?
All buildings eventually decay - listed or not. Whether in 100 years or 500. If unmaintained I suspect Mistley Quay will crumble (although it hasn't in the last 240 years since it was built). Whether the current 'owners' are still around or not, future generations will still be able to appreciate it as it has the protection this generation has afforded it to stop it being demolished or wrecked.
Do you really think English Heritage should buy every property they list?
Firefly
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Listing does not make anyone maintain a listed building or structure, it regulates how they are repaired (in the most expensive manner anyone could devise). If you just neglect it and let it fall down, no one will intervene. Use an "unsympathetic" material or anything the conservation officer doesn't approve of (in advance) and they will proscecute. Possibly not the best way to keep our heritage pristine, but better than no attempt at all.
Oldgeezer
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toyboy
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The property developers who buy such properties will have factored in all possibilities such as it being a Public Right of way and a Public Quay and the cost of forcing the issue as they have by putting up the fence. No fence- no aggravation but then they may have had a problem raising money to develop what maybe a public access which cannot be developed in the most profitable way. The standard way to challenge a RoW is to obstruct it and then claim it is not used anymore.
Sixpence
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As so often happens, when people are obsessed with one ideal, the real reason goes ahead. Planning granted for housing, sounds like they don't want riffraff mooring outside bedroom windows
http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/mistley_45_home_development_for_mistley_quay_gets_approval_1_2865035
http://www.eadt.co.uk/news/mistley_45_home_development_for_mistley_quay_gets_approval_1_2865035
toyboy
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They cannot stop anchoring and so the battles continues until one side runs out of money and that is usually the objectors who cannot afford to go to court. Then the developers will want to put in residents pontoons for private moorings and that in turn can be challenged as an obstruction to navigation and so on and so on and the lawyers all become very happy. MMO will become involved along with EA and even Natural England making the problem last another career of employment.
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