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The real global warming swindle
A Channel 4 documentary claimed that climate change was a conspiratorial lie. But an analysis of the evidence it used shows the film was riddled with distortions and errors

By Steve Connor
Published: 14 March 2007
A Channel 4 documentary that claimed global warming is a swindle was itself flawed with major errors which seriously undermine the programme's credibility, according to an investigation by The Independent.

The Great Global Warming Swindle, was based on graphs that were distorted, mislabelled or just plain wrong. The graphs were nevertheless used to attack the credibility and honesty of climate scientists.

A graph central to the programme's thesis, purporting to show variations in global temperatures over the past century, claimed to show that global warming was not linked with industrial emissions of carbon dioxide. Yet the graph was not what it seemed.

Other graphs used out-of-date information or data that was shown some years ago to be wrong. Yet the programme makers claimed the graphs demonstrated that orthodox climate science was a conspiratorial "lie" foisted on the public.

Channel 4 yesterday distanced itself from the programme, referring this newspaper's inquiries to a public relations consultant working on behalf of Wag TV, the production company behind the documentary.

Martin Durkin, who wrote and directed the film, admitted yesterday that one of the graphs contained serious errors but he said they were corrected in time for the second transmission of the programme following inquiries by The Independent.

Mr Durkin has already been criticised by one scientist who took part in the programme over alleged misrepresentation of his views on the climate.

The main arguments made in Mr Durkin's film were that climate change had little if anything to do with man-made carbon dioxide and that global warming can instead be linked directly with solar activity - sun spots.

One of the principal supports for his thesis came in the form of a graph labelled "World Temp - 120 years", which claimed to show rises and falls in average global temperatures between 1880 and 2000.

Mr Durkin's film argued that most global warming over the past century occurred between 1900 and 1940 and that there was a period of cooling between 1940 and 1975 when the post-war economic boom was under way. This showed, he said, that global warming had little to do with industrial emissions of carbon dioxide.

The programme-makers labelled the source of the world temperature data as "Nasa" but when we inquired about where we could find this information, we received an email through Wag TV's PR consultant saying that the graph was drawn from a 1998 diagram published in an obscure journal called Medical Sentinel. The authors of the paper are well-known climate sceptics who were funded by the Oregon Institute of Science and Medicine and the George C Marshall Institute, a right-wing Washington think-tank.

However, there are no diagrams in the paper that accurately compare with the C4 graph. The nearest comparison is a diagram of "terrestrial northern hemisphere" temperatures - which refers only to data gathered by weather stations in the top one third of the globe.

However, further inquiries revealed that the C4 graph was based on a diagram in another paper produced as part of a "petition project" by the same group of climate sceptics. This diagram was itself based on long out-of-date information on terrestrial temperatures compiled by Nasa scientists.

However, crucially, the axis along the bottom of the graph has been distorted in the C4 version of the graph, which made it look like the information was up-to-date when in fact the data ended in the early 1980s.

Mr Durkin admitted that his graphics team had extended the time axis along the bottom of the graph to the year 2000. "There was a fluff there," he said.

If Mr Durkin had gone directly to the Nasa website he could have got the most up-to-date data. This would have demonstrated that the amount of global warming since 1975, as monitored by terrestrial weather stations around the world, has been greater than that between 1900 and 1940 - although that would have undermined his argument.

"The original Nasa data was very wiggly-lined and we wanted the simplest line we could find," Mr Durkin said.

The programme failed to point out that scientists had now explained the period of "global cooling" between 1940 and 1970. It was caused by industrial emissions of sulphate pollutants, which tend to reflect sunlight. Subsequent clean-air laws have cleared up some of this pollution, revealing the true scale of global warming - a point that the film failed to mention.

Other graphs used in the film contained known errors, notably the graph of sunspot activity. Mr Durkin used data on solar cycle lengths which were first published in 1991 despite a corrected version being available - but again the corrected version would not have supported his argument. Mr Durkin also used a schematic graph of temperatures over the past 1,000 years that was at least 16 years old, which gave the impression that today's temperatures are cooler than during the medieval warm period. If he had used a more recent, and widely available, composite graph it would have shown average temperatures far exceed the past 1,000 years.
 
Yet there does seem to be a lot of confusion as well... so the truth will remain carefully hidden amongst the political agenda of many different organisations and governments!

In a remarkable column in today’s Guardian, Mike Hulme, professor in the school of environmental sciences at the University of East Anglia and the founding director of the Tyndall Centre for Climate Change Research — a key figure in the promulgation of climate change theory but who a short while ago warned that exaggerated forecasts of global apocalypse were in danger of destroying the case altogether — writes that scientific truth is the wrong tool to establish the, er, truth of global warming! Talk about from the horses mouth! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif Amongst his report, he states that, "Self-evidently dangerous climate change will not emerge from a normal scientific process of truth seeking".
Of course not. The facts don’t support it. It’s not true. So, says Hulme, let’s abolish the need to establish the facts and the truth and impose the theory on the basis of — what’s that again — ‘values and beliefs’. In other words, climate change science has got to be anti-science. It’s got to be anti-truth. It’s got to be nothing more than an ideology.

The above is quoted from Melanie Phillips, the journalist, author and broadcaster (read it at: http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1469 .... it is also well worth reading her take on the C4 programme as well... facinating! Read it at:
http://www.melaniephillips.com/diary/?p=1467
Melanie has a way of cutting through the confusion and focussing on the facts.

So, Jimi, I'm afraid that you will continue to find a balance of opinions both for and against global warming, with top enviromental scientists on both sides of the fence! /forums/images/graemlins/confused.gif
 
Yerbut all Melanie Philips does is report what the programme said in a gorblimey, fancy that guvner fashion. She doesn't examine whether what it said in any way reflects established facts. So her oece (as most of her pieces) has no value.

>Melanie Phillips, the journalist, author and broadcaster <

Or to put it another way, public entertainer.
 
H'mmmm

After 25 years working the media, i would still not believe ANYTHING that i see on ANY British TV network. Its key purpose is entertainment, nothing more. And lining the pockets of media moguls. I obviously won't mention the phone in channel that made a clear 23 Million in 6 months. Nor the fact that now "Blue Peter" admitted it fabricated a phone in winner.

Carry on......

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"Self-evidently dangerous climate change will not emerge from a normal scientific process of truth seeking"

Why does she need to read so much into that statement and where does she get those conclusions from? It's nothing to do with an admission that "It’s not true". It's simply a question of what words mean, which could easily be solved with a dictionary! Of course a process of scientific enquiry will not reveal a "Self-evidently dangerous climate change"; if it was self-evident, then you would hardly need to investigate it, would you?

And another thing, there is no such thing as 'scientific fact', just theories that we are more or less sure of. We will never prove anthropogenic climate change, but that doesn't mean we should just wait and see. We act on weather forecasts based on both the probability that they are true, and the risk to us if they are; exactly the same should apply here.

Yes you will always find differing opinions amongst scientists (that is, after all, how science works), but that does not mean that opinion is equivocal. If the media truly represented the balance of scientific opinion, then most of us simply wouldn't read enough newspapers or watch enough TV to ever see a piece that denied human contributions to climate change.
 
Come on twister_ken.... that's certainly not an accurate reflection of her! She is very serious and commited to what she says and she says it very well.....
I often think that hers is one of the few voices of sanity in the media!

If you follow through her onsite diary, you would not fail to be persuaded that she is far removed from an 'entertainer'!
 
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Of course a process of scientific enquiry will not reveal a "Self-evidently dangerous climate change";

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A pretty damning indictment of scientific enquiry if it can't prove something that is "obvious". Or maybe Self Evident is the same as Faith....
 
>She is very serious and commited to what she says and she says it very well.....<

So was Margaret Thatcher. Didn't always make her right though!

But read her piece again. It just comments on the content of the programme, and does nothing to examine the veracity or otherwise of what the programme makers said.
 
Will you lot stop arguing and just pay more tax as Tony and David say you should. Just like the French, the Americans, the Indians, the Chinese, the Russians, the Serbs............... won't.
 
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A pretty damning indictment of scientific enquiry if it can't prove something that is "obvious".

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If that were what I said....

There is a difference between proving something that is 'obvious' (what I didn't say) and making 'obvious' something that isn't 'obvious' (what I did say).

By definition, if somthing is self-evident then it does not need investigating for the very simple reason that it is self-evident.

Therefore, to ask someone to investigate until something 'becomes self evident' is, at best, futile; at worst meaningless. That much is self-evident!
 
I had a touch of "eats shoots and leaves" there....

"Self-evidently dangerous climate change will not emerge from a normal scientific process of truth seeking".

Paraphrased, this says that the science will not produce enough "proof" so that everyone says "oh, of course.."

Open to corrections....
 
I think that you need to put the quote in context (which you can do here )

You can see that Mike Hulme is responding to the question: "what level of greenhouse gases in the atmosphere is self-evidently too much"?

Now it seems obvious that if you need to ask a group of scientists this question then the answer cannot be 'self evident' (note that 'self-evident' does not mean well supported, or even proven). The scientists can make a good case for it, they can even produce overwhelming evidence but as with everything else in science, it can never be proven and it can certainly not be made self evident.
 
>"Self-evidently dangerous climate change will not emerge from a normal scientific process of truth seeking". <

I don't think any level of climate change will emerge from the process of scientific truth-seeking, unless in seeking the truth the scientists liberate lots of fossil carbon.
 
I am a scientist and I emit lots of carbon dioxide and methane (and sulphur if SWMBO is to be believed) /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif /forums/images/graemlins/smirk.gif
 
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