pheonix
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leave a deposit on their foredeck without bucket to see how they like to be the recipiant of your s**t
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Glad I try to stay out of marinas
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bilbobaggins
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No problemo! Zokay! My ingrained, dyed-in-the-wool hatred of 'all who go down to the sea in mobos' is not indiscriminate. It is highly selective, for ( tell no-one I told you this - I'll never hear the end of it ) I wunce operated a twin-screw diesel yacht, commercially, for two years. As a fishing platform for rod-n-liners ( the stench, the stench! ) and as a dive platform for Midlands madmen, before GPS, 'cos I could find undived wrecks way out in the North Sea using Decca. Anyone want several cwt. of old brass shell cases?
I try to reserve my wrath for those inconsiderate and anti-social gongfermers with small twin attributes and big twin engines ( compensating? ) who ruin my peace and my blood pressure with their gensets and their screeching offspring in many of the quite sea-places I've found. Hangin's too guid for 'em!
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I try to reserve my wrath for those inconsiderate and anti-social gongfermers with small twin attributes and big twin engines ( compensating? ) who ruin my peace and my blood pressure with their gensets and their screeching offspring in many of the quite sea-places I've found. Hangin's too guid for 'em!
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MJT
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We're on the same wavelength ... /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
KevB
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Another of those 'don't confuse me with the facts' types. Ok, so you'll believe only what suits your prejudices.....
It's true - go down and ask. Otherwise..... ( with all the politesse I can muster ) wind your neck in!
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Another of those 'don't confuse me with the facts' types. Ok, so you'll believe only what suits your prejudices.....
It's true - go down and ask. Otherwise..... ( with all the politesse I can muster ) wind your neck in!
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Gunfleet
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Well, you can do that, but it's important not to fall into the Grumpy Old Git category. Just don't presume the person who has left their halliards able to rattle has done it on purpose. Chill out man.
damo
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No, it's a sign of a lack of care and awareness.
In my experience it is the same owners time after time - the same ones whose warps need adjusting when it gets windy, whose fender lines chafe through, whose booms start swinging, whose furling lines come loose and let some genoa or in-mast main work out.
(PS that's not being a grumpy old git, that's someone who has to deal with it on a daily basis /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif )
In my experience it is the same owners time after time - the same ones whose warps need adjusting when it gets windy, whose fender lines chafe through, whose booms start swinging, whose furling lines come loose and let some genoa or in-mast main work out.
(PS that's not being a grumpy old git, that's someone who has to deal with it on a daily basis /forums/images/graemlins/smile.gif )
awol
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I feel there is a difference between "a lack of care and awareness" with frapping halyards (a sin of whch I have probably been guilty given the number of nocturnal readjustments I have made at anchor) and blithely declaring "I'm not planning an outdoor disco, but quality sound when in marina".
I don't regard either my car or my boat as a mobile entertainment centre but I suppose it is inevitable that some of the owners of the many loudly thudding Corsas and Fiestas will graduate to the maritime equivalent and expect the same level of sensory ambiance. It is likely that they will have the same regard for their fellow berth-holders as the road-going boom boxes have for those around them.
However, if you can't beat them, join them - so I propose a new TV series "Pimp my Boat" which will take some tatty MAB and transform it with DVD screens, 1500W of sound, velour cabin lining, carbon mast and sails and a really flash paint job. If any TV producers are keen on this, I have an ideal starting boat - PM me!
I don't regard either my car or my boat as a mobile entertainment centre but I suppose it is inevitable that some of the owners of the many loudly thudding Corsas and Fiestas will graduate to the maritime equivalent and expect the same level of sensory ambiance. It is likely that they will have the same regard for their fellow berth-holders as the road-going boom boxes have for those around them.
However, if you can't beat them, join them - so I propose a new TV series "Pimp my Boat" which will take some tatty MAB and transform it with DVD screens, 1500W of sound, velour cabin lining, carbon mast and sails and a really flash paint job. If any TV producers are keen on this, I have an ideal starting boat - PM me!
Major Catastrophe
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Of course, I forgot that it is impossible to play music on a rag bearing craft.
However, two of these obscenely under-engined boats have obviously tweaked them and have a habit of playing loud music near my berth. One of them, a large yot, plays thumping music well into the night, whilst the other is in an almost constant party state, most weekends during the summer, and it is not unknown for eight people to sit in the cockpit, playing music, laughing and even shouting well into the early hours.
Oh yes, the other raggy habit is to shout across the water to other boats, to shore or to people standing on the balconies of the surrounding houses, at seven o'clock on a Sunday morning.
Your arrogance staggers me that you think that only MOBOers can make a noise.
I am usually too polite to complain and I certainly don't whine and complain about raggies any more than I do about MOBOers, on this forum. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
However, two of these obscenely under-engined boats have obviously tweaked them and have a habit of playing loud music near my berth. One of them, a large yot, plays thumping music well into the night, whilst the other is in an almost constant party state, most weekends during the summer, and it is not unknown for eight people to sit in the cockpit, playing music, laughing and even shouting well into the early hours.
Oh yes, the other raggy habit is to shout across the water to other boats, to shore or to people standing on the balconies of the surrounding houses, at seven o'clock on a Sunday morning.
Your arrogance staggers me that you think that only MOBOers can make a noise.
I am usually too polite to complain and I certainly don't whine and complain about raggies any more than I do about MOBOers, on this forum. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
rickp
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I am usually too polite to complain and I certainly don't whine and complain about raggies any more than I do about MOBOers, on this forum. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
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And you didn't lower yourself to suggesting deliberately sinking someone elses pride and joy. Well done.
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And you didn't lower yourself to suggesting deliberately sinking someone elses pride and joy. Well done.
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awol
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Your arrogance staggers me that you think that only MOBOers can make a noise.
I am usually too polite to complain and I certainly don't whine and complain about raggies any more than I do about MOBOers, on this forum.
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Methinks the Major doth protest too much! While I may be an arrogant git, I have neither impuned nor complained about MOBOers, as a sub-species, on this thread. Apart from the original quote from MOBOchat, probably, but not necessarily, from a MOBOer, my other coments have been directed to my preferred piece of sailing music and an implied criticism of Corsa and Fiesta boom-box drivers.
If you think that accepting boorish behaviour without complaint (whoever is the source) is evidence of politeness, then we are bound to disagree. My solution, as the thread is titled, is to stay out of marinas whenever possible and a lot of the comments made by both MOBOers and raggies on this thread have only reinforced that.
Your arrogance staggers me that you think that only MOBOers can make a noise.
I am usually too polite to complain and I certainly don't whine and complain about raggies any more than I do about MOBOers, on this forum.
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Methinks the Major doth protest too much! While I may be an arrogant git, I have neither impuned nor complained about MOBOers, as a sub-species, on this thread. Apart from the original quote from MOBOchat, probably, but not necessarily, from a MOBOer, my other coments have been directed to my preferred piece of sailing music and an implied criticism of Corsa and Fiesta boom-box drivers.
If you think that accepting boorish behaviour without complaint (whoever is the source) is evidence of politeness, then we are bound to disagree. My solution, as the thread is titled, is to stay out of marinas whenever possible and a lot of the comments made by both MOBOers and raggies on this thread have only reinforced that.
Whitelighter
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No-where did he suggest he would use it in a crowded marina or anywhere it might cause offence. He may well just be planning on using it while going along, that's the trouble with assuming. Anyway, if it did use it occasionally do you think an hour or so of this is more or less annoying than the sound of ill fitting and loose halyards of 15 or so yachts clanking on hollow masts all night?
awol
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No-where did he suggest he would use it in a crowded marina or anywhere it might cause offence. He may well just be planning on using it while going along, that's the trouble with assuming. Anyway, if it did use it occasionally do you think an hour or so of this is more or less annoying than the sound of ill fitting and loose halyards of 15 or so yachts clanking on hollow masts all night?
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The original quote - "Crowded" no; "marina" most definitely. However, the original mentioned only quality and not volume. I did not suggest that the source was guilty of anything but asked what people would do if "such a vessel" (additional amplifier and 10" sub-woofer), berthed adjacent, was guilty of audio pollution.
As to the relative guilt argument? Aural pollution of all kinds whether music, halyards, generators, et al annoy me. Even the wind whistling through rigging other than my own, I find unpleasant. So that is why I'm "Glad I try to stay out of Marinas".
No-where did he suggest he would use it in a crowded marina or anywhere it might cause offence. He may well just be planning on using it while going along, that's the trouble with assuming. Anyway, if it did use it occasionally do you think an hour or so of this is more or less annoying than the sound of ill fitting and loose halyards of 15 or so yachts clanking on hollow masts all night?
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The original quote - "Crowded" no; "marina" most definitely. However, the original mentioned only quality and not volume. I did not suggest that the source was guilty of anything but asked what people would do if "such a vessel" (additional amplifier and 10" sub-woofer), berthed adjacent, was guilty of audio pollution.
As to the relative guilt argument? Aural pollution of all kinds whether music, halyards, generators, et al annoy me. Even the wind whistling through rigging other than my own, I find unpleasant. So that is why I'm "Glad I try to stay out of Marinas".