Gibraltar is like Marmite.

How absent minded of me....:D....there is a third obsession I forgot to include, sorry.:D

The third obsession is ingrained cynicism, which in the Anglo Saxon version includes an extra two fiurther complications, being hypocrisy on the one hand, and resentment against achievement on the other.:eek:
 
I am left with the thought that the bigest problem in Gib is running into VO5 and then wanting to jump into the sea. No LJ and drowning happy.
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Brian blue bear said:
Really Orbister, where have you been MPs, British Laws a Govenment voted in on les than 30% of the electorites votes, another stabbing in a quite village last week Americanised Schools along with the problems that brings, Incredably bad government services, and getting worse and I have had the misfortune to use them.... I don't know you Personally but your Mad Views must give you a better than fair chance of being Prime minister.
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Skipper-stu is right.
Orbister sounds like Mandy.Very...er...Mandylike....:D
If he is Mandy, ask him about the kicking his chum Peter Hain was given when he visited armed with really stupid ideas.:eek:
 
Also coming from a small place that attracts visitors I can kinda relate to VO5's comments.

If folk want to visit a themepark where everyone is happy to see you visit a Disneyland :rolleyes:, the locals don't live their lives around the wishes of Visitors. Even those in the visitor service sector ain't on duty 24/7........but having said that, same as most other places, if you are freindly enuf (and/or have large breasts and a string bikini :D) and in the right place at the right time folks will be freindly enuf in return (even me :eek:) - and where that leads to is as variable as anywhere else. Of course the longer you are anywhere (or the bigger your breasts :p) the greater the chances of interactions with the locals leading to that wedding invite or simply a sail or a BBQ etc.

2 days or 2 weeks even Alan Whicker don't get to see the "real" anywhere, cos' it's always about the people and that simply takes time.

Of course Gibralter is a money laundering tax haven full of Arthur Daley types :p I also hear on the grapevine that not only does Osama keep his money in Gib, but he lives in one of the tunnels :D Disgusting is what I call it - should be made a part of Portsmouth, now that's a real sh#thole :eek:
 
..my last post on this topic (probably not yours)

VO5 - I have read and re-read your response to my reply to your post blah blah blah. I have concluded (as others have) that in that post you have been blatently been unable to prove any of your points, other than to flame and be somewhat unkind in your remarks, not only to me but others.

You have however apparently come round to agreeing with some of my points - so thankyou.

The toilets...it was a visitors observation and I WAS NOT BLAMING YOU !!!! The airport stuff ....again ....whaat ? Anglo-saxon stuff ...whaat ?

My case WAS rested in my last post. You live there and wish to protect it, I visited and was not impressed for reasons (asked for) and stated in this forum.



VO5 said:
Again ?

Aren't you funny.

You seem to be obsessed with the lavatories.

In the first one you form the opinion that because you pay for a mooring in which the facility is based you ought to have exclusive use of it. The best solution is for you to carry a porapottie around with you or your own toilet seat like the Prince of Wales does when he travels overseas (fact) and that would make you happy.

In your second reference to the topic you complain about the state of the heads at Trafalgar Cemetary.

Whose fault is that ?

I will tell you whose fault it is. It is not the locals' fault. It is the fault of visitors. Locals use their own lavatories in their own homes. Visitors have to avail themselves of what is available for public use, you see ?

Therefore the destruction and mess is the responsibility of those who do it, the visitors. Why ? Because the Trafalgar Cemetry Public Toilets are there for the user of visitors, who are entrusted to behave properly, to use them and flush them as they would do in their own homes, unsupervised, and not additionally to vandalise that which is provided for their use.

As a case in point, I had the occasion to visit the lavatories at the Air Terminal building this very morning. I was impressed at how absolutely spotless everything was. Why ? Because these toilets which are provided for the use of passengers are supervised.

Unlike you, the passengers do not get miffed if someone who is not a passenger happens to use them, like me, for example.

They do not adopt an obsession that they are the only people who have an exclusive right to use them by virtue of being a fare paying passenger on an airline, in parallel with what you try to argue.

I am not responsible for the flyers or anything connected with them, so I cannot comment any further. Your best option is to take up the matter with the Ministry of Tourism, or the individual Tour Operator, and not me.

THe Marina you grumble about is obviously one of the two commercial ones.

Again I do not use their mooring facilities. My visits to them are confined to the waterfront on occasion. But there again I am not responsible for your interaction with grumpy women. I find when I interact with the ladies they are not grumpy, so I cannot comment on why you should encounter such unfortunate experiences one after the other.

I will concede you have a point about the traffic and with particular regard to scooters and motorbikes. But there again they are a nuisance everywhere. But at least he made sure she was unharmed. This is not the case in other places. You should not single out The Rock just because of its size and congestion causes traffic problems to be magnified.

I do not have a political opinion. I am not interested in having them or having to defend them or otherwise. I am not a politician.

I have very strong connections with the mother country but not political ones at all.

Neither do I have any cause to dislike or envy anybody.

But when swatting needs to be done I am very pleased to do the swatting if it absolutely necessary.
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Yes, well, fine, I am pleased you are pleased at last.

Life is very short and it is there to be enjoyed and not to be suffered.

You don't like Gib. That's fine.

I love it. I don't pick out the lowest negative denominators in life. I pick out the highest positives always.

I have had a wonderful day, out for a drive, blue corniche whitewall tyres, then lunch al freso, then a game of cards, then teatime, and this evening a Dinner party.:D
 
Que cabeça de ricardo.
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And if you have a problem with my spelling, it is Portuguese, which I am more comfortable in.
 
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DownWest said:
Que cabeça de ricardo.
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And if you have a problem with my spelling, it is Portuguese, which I am more comfortable in.
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The object of the excercise is not post insults in the expectation that no one but you will understand them.

The object of the excercise is to debate, which in the English Speaking World where the right to freedom of speech is upheld and defended, is a rich tradition.

You obviously are not educated in this tradition. You are not accustomed to ferocity in debate, which we relish.

This site is an English Speaking Site.

Therefore I am permitted to return the compliment,

F I F O.:p

While I am at it, I will tell you my opinion of your country is that I find it disgusting that in Portugal peadophilia is not considered a crime nor is there in place any law against it.

Now when are you people going to tell the truth about the abduction and disappearance of Madeleine Mc Cann and about the huge cover up you have spun round it protected at the highest levels of your so called society, government, police and judiciary ? When ? Go on, tell us, Portuguese indeed....that you are more comfortable in...... You Absolute Richard Yourself !
 
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Well a potentially interesting thread to the sailing community becomes one of the most ridiculous forum threads ever. What a shame.

...by the way the miserable woman at the marina is a total ***
 
Actually not my country. Since you bring up the Mc Cann business I will PM you, so as not to prolong this thread drift.
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BTW, my last post was a comment on your telling us to immerse and learn Spanish, at least you understood it. :-))
 
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Actually not my country. Since you bring up the Mc Cann business I will PM you, so as not to prolong this thread drift.
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BTW, my last post was a comment on your telling us to immerse and learn Spanish, at least you understood it. :-))
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Don't tell lies and laugh.:rolleyes:

Que cabeca de Ricardo is Portuguese not Spanish. In Spanish it is cabeza and not cabeca.

Que cabeca de Ricardo.

Literal translation :You are a dick head.

Don't send me any private messages.

I am not interested in any explanations of yours in private, nor am I interested in any excuses.

Now, let's see if we can keep this thread on track from now on.
 
I PMed you because you bought up a non related subject. And sent my views on it.

As I said above my experiences of Gib are from earlier times and a bit negatve. This discussion does not encourage me to go back.

Lies? Your style of chat belongs in the lounge.

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VO5 said:
I have had a wonderful day, out for a drive, blue corniche whitewall tyres, .:D
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Oh dear, I fear 'hairspray man' has revealed himself as really rather 'trade' despite his aspirations to the contrary. Shame, he was playing the Colonel Blimp character so well and almost had me fooled.
 
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