Gibraltar diesel and courtesy flag

[VO5]

Not me on that occasion, I am afraid. My Tall Ship tootling days ended before then.

Mind, you, I am glad that such traditions are being maintained!

Which ship was the bugle blown from?

I can't remember which one, the Malcolm Miller or the Sir Winston Churchill. But I remember the bugle definitely and it was flying a red duster and all the square sails were reefed in and she was motoring past very slowly, all the crew on the yards. Caused quite a stir with the Dutch. They loved it and clapped, etc.,

 

[Ubergeekian]

As such it would seem superfluous for a vessel of the same sovereignty as the territory visited to fly a 'courtesy flag'.

You must remember that Gibraltar is only British when it suits (bobbies' helmets, proper phone boxes, speaking English, not being Spanish) and not when it might cost something - taxing people, companies and bookmakers like the UK, for example. When there's cash involved, they are proud to be foreign.

 

[VO5]

You must remember that Gibraltar is only British when it suits (bobbies' helmets, proper phone boxes, speaking English, not being Spanish) and not when it might cost something - taxing people, companies and bookmakers like the UK, for example. When there's cash involved, they are proud to be foreign.

You are talking of costs, but you don't really know what it is you are talking about, do you ?

When an economy is efficient Governments can afford to ease tax burdens.
Our economy here is self sufficient and bouyant, and not depressed like yours. We do not rely on the UK for one single penny.

Your economy is a disaster. This is not our fault. It is yours, not ours.

You have a really serious black economy and an infestation of illegal immigration you all bleat and grumble about.

Again, that is your fault and not ours.

You have really serious crime of all sorts.

We don't. Here you can walk about anywhere at any time and you will not be threatened. There I nearly got killed for my Rolex.

Here your wife or girlfriend can venture out for the evening dripping with diamonds and it is perfectly safe. Here children are cherished. They run around and play without any fear of being abducted or molested.

And these are just a few differences.

Again, the condition of your society is your fault, and not ours.

And that is just a sample for the moment.

If you want more, come back and I will tell you more home truths you will like even less.

 

[Ubergeekian]

When an economy is efficient Governments can afford to ease tax burdens.
Our economy here is self sufficient and bouyant, and not depressed like yours. We do not rely on the UK for one single penny.

Except those big grey things which prevent you all from having to speak Spanish, of course. Sorry old boy, but dodgy offshore tax havens can never be British.

 

[VO5]

Except those big grey things which prevent you all from having to speak Spanish, of course. Sorry old boy, but dodgy offshore tax havens can never be British.

What are you talking about now ?

More of your nonsense ?

The big grey things have all but disappeared. You have more Admirals and Rear Admirals than you have ships. You should know that, as it is common knowledge. Therefore you should abstain from making inapprpropriate comments that make you look silly.

It is very clear to me you are suffering from envy. I am indeed sorry for you but regret I cannot help you.

This is not a dodgy Tax Haven. It is very tightly regulated. In fact, it is over regulated. So are the laws on residence.

The purpose is not to allow money laundering to slip a very tight net in place here and to discourage unsuitable prospective residents from being able to get a foothold here.

This is what really angers and antagonises your fellow countrymen on the Costa Del Sol, known in England as The Costa Del Crime, who grumble and rant at not getting a foothold here.

Now who's a pretty boy then, eh ?

If you would like some more, by all means come back. I happen to be in the right mood for it.

 

[Ubergeekian]

The big grey things have all but disappeared. You have more Admirals and Rear Admirals than you have ships.

What's all this "you" business? I thought you all thought of yourselves as British!

There's nothing incompatible, by the way, in having dodgy tax havens highly regulated. In fact it's almost essential - the Swiss didn't get where they are today by having lax banking laws. I for one am full of admiration at the way Gibraltar has managed to diversify from the traditional industries of victualling, ship repair and prostitution into more modern economic areas.

If you would like some more, by all means come back. I happen to be in the right mood for it.

Nah, tell us a bit more about the 100,000 guillotines being prepared for use in enforcing the New World Order in the US. That were a right good larff that were.

 

[VO5]

What's all this "you" business? I thought you all thought of yourselves as British!

There's nothing incompatible, by the way, in having dodgy tax havens highly regulated. In fact it's almost essential - the Swiss didn't get where they are today by having lax banking laws. I for one am full of admiration at the way Gibraltar has managed to diversify from the traditional industries of victualling, ship repair and prostitution into more modern economic areas.



Nah, tell us a bit more about the 100,000 guillotines being prepared for use in enforcing the New World Order in the US. That were a right good larff that were.

This "you" business is you yourself over there.

I am fed up with you following me all over the site. Go and get a life.

Again you are talking rubbish.

There is no prostitution here and there never has been. In fact, ask any visiting servicemen and they will tell you this activity that seems to morbidly interest you is rife across the border. And in case you are interestred there is an English Language newspaper published and printed on The Costa Del Crime (Sur in English)
with several pages devoted to adverts such as escort services and blatant offers, and do you know what ?....The great majority are British Ex Pat Women.

The Guillotines ?
Not a larf.
Go there in several years time and misbehave, and do us all a favour.

Any more ? No ? Goodnight.

 

[macd]

There is no prostitution here and there never has been.

"Tito Vallejo gave a talk on ''Gibraltar's Prostitutes at the Gibraltar Regiment social club viewable by clicking on http://vimeo.com/15063553"

 

[Ubergeekian]

There is no prostitution here and there never has been.

http://www.amazon.co.uk/Prostitutes-Serruyas-Hidden-Gibraltarian-Histories/dp/0955246520

 

[VO5]

"Tito Vallejo gave a talk on ''Gibraltar's Prostitutes at the Gibraltar Regiment social club viewable by clicking on http://vimeo.com/15063553"

Here are the facts:~

I have just come off the phone in a long conversation with Mr Vallejo with regard to the lecture he delivered at the Royal Gibraltar Regiment Club, (of which incidentally I am also a member but was away on business so I missed his talk), of historical interest.

He confirms prostitution in Gibraltar was eradicated totally by intervention of The Roman Catholic Church in early 1939 and remains eradicated to this day with the exception of one incident involving an ex pat girl who was a waitress at a night club called the Whisky a Go Go in the early 196o's, the said girl arrested and immediately deported via the ferry Mons Calpe via Tangiers as the border with Spain was closed at that time.

There have been no further incidents.

All prostitution in wartime and after has taken place in La Linea, Campamento and in the Costa del Sol. There is no prostitution in Gibraltar.

Prostitution in the surrounding area has a long history, going back to the early 1700's. There was limited activity here involving Spanish women between the First and before the Second World War, but as I have explained it was eradicated.

Prostitution is rife nowadays all along the coast of Spain from La Linea all the way to Malaga. The Spanish authorities tolerate it. It is not tolerated here.

 

[VexedIllologist]

Surprised - nay, shocked!

Good Lord!

After a short absence I wandered back into this thread and what did I find?

Vice, vilification and visciousness... oooer!

Isn't it amazing what can happen so very quickly in a YBW forum thread? Quite shocking. I think I need a nice hot cup of tea.

Is this the electronic version of Shaw's comment in Pygmalion that: 'It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him'?

(Yes, I know you're not 'Englishmen', but you get the idea - Shaw meant Britons of all varieties...)

*****

Anyway, I have been doing some research on the question of the use of a courtesy flag in a British ship visiting another British jurisdiction; I have turned up some useful information, which I have sent off to the Flag Institute for further comment.

 

[Conachair]

Prostitution is rife nowadays all along the coast of Spain from La Linea all the way to Malaga. The Spanish authorities tolerate it. It is not tolerated here.

That's a shame.

So you need to go across the border now to get a sh@g

At least while you're there you can indulge in some decent food and stunning music.

 

[chinita]

On a lighter note; was it HMS Vanguard, Britain's last battleship, when sailing through the Straits in 1960 was signalled from Gibraltar:

'What Ship?'

The reply was 'What Rock?'

 

[VO5]

That's a shame.

So you need to go across the border now to get a sh@g

At least while you're there you can indulge in some decent food and stunning music.

No, I am no John. That restriction is reserved for unfortunate guys that cannot pull women.

Here we have an overanbundance of food, music and some of the most stunning women imaginable.

Our Miss Gibraltar won the Miss World competition last year.

Take a walk down Main Street and there are literally dozens of beauties like her. Any one of them would make a worthwhile candidate.

So, no, there is no need to go there as you suggest, I'm very happy here, thank you.

 

[VO5]

Good Lord!

After a short absence I wandered back into this thread and what did I find?

Vice, villification and visciousness... oooer!

Isn't it amazing what can happen so very quickly in a YBW forum thread? Quite shocking. I think I need a nice hot cup of tea.

Is this the electronic version of Shaw's comment in Pygmalion that: 'It is impossible for an Englishman to open his mouth without making some other Englishman hate or despise him'?

(Yes, I know you're not 'Englishmen', but you get the idea - Shaw meant Britons of all varieties...)

*****

Anyway, I have been doing some research on the question of the use of a courtesy flag in a British ship visiting another British jurisdiction; I have turned up some useful information, which I have sent off to the Flag Institute for further comment.

Yes, its the Anglo Saxon flaw, unfortunately

I had a house in England and lived there on and off for 42 years.

I know the Anglo Saxon mentality intimately from two enriching perspectives.

The first is as a consequence of getting to know my neighbours there and their inhibitions, characteristics, propensities, weaknesses, foibles, including envy, resentment against achievement, and intermittent hypocrisy, etc.,

The second is from the viewpoint of a fearless wild colonial boy.

Then no one ought to be surprised that if a cannonball needs to fired, I am the one to do it,, most efficiently and accurately.

Observe how each round always hits the bullseye....BOOM !

You can judge this from the periods of silence following one of my well aimed barrages, aimed at individuals who by now ought to know better than to persistently try to engage me inappropriately.

 

[Conachair]

No, I am no John. That restriction is reserved for unfortunate guys that cannot pull women.

But I'll still opt for the tapas.

And you're surrounded by Flamenco.

 

[VO5]

Yes, quite. And keep away from commercial girls, the best things in life are free.

...And this thread btw has had 331 hits in 23 hrs 50 mins so someone must be reading it and if not, hanging on your every word !

 

[Ubergeekian]

You can judge this from the periods of silence following one of my well aimed barrages, aimed at individuals who by now ought to know better than to persistently try to engage me inappropriately.

Who can he mean?

Anyway, I did say that Gibraltar had moved on from prostitution, though of course its legacy remains in the healthily diverse genetics of the population. Hybrid strength, and all that.

Meanwhile, here's an interesting little news item from 25th January this year. It looks as if other traditional Gibraltar economic activities may be reasserting themselves.

Potential for serious and organised crime in Gibraltar - says UK Police Report 25th January 2011

The Report by Her Majesty's Inspectorate of Constabulary (HMIC) regarding the Inspection conducted on the RGP last September and commissioned by the Gibraltar Police Authority reveals many critical areas of improvement that need to be addressed, not only by the Police themselves but by the Gibraltar Government!

(...)

UNDERLYING POTENTIAL FOR SERIOUS ORGANISED CRIMES

Crime: Recommendation 3 the HMIC point to the fact that Gibraltar's high incidence of drug and smuggling cases could be indicative of an underlying potential for serious organised crimes in Gibraltar. HMIC recommends that the RGP review its approach to organised criminality and organised crime groups.
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[VO5]

Who can he mean?

Anyway, I did say that Gibraltar had moved on from prostitution, though of course its legacy remains in the healthily diverse genetics of the population. Hybrid strength, and all that.

You., who else ?

Here you are again. Aren't you persistently rude and offensive ?

Give me an address where a gallon of strong disinfectant can be sent for you to wash your mouth out with, once and for all.

 

[Ubergeekian]

Aren't you persistently rude and offensive ?

Not in the least, my dear fellow. Incidentally, I've added a Gibraltar news item about the resurgence of drug smuggling and organised crime to my last post.