Genuine CQR

In my opinion they are not worth much second hand. I have used them for years and they worked but there are more powerful holding anchors and more efficient designs on the market now. I have a 60 lb and 40 lb now in storage having upgraded both to more modern designs - they will adorn a flower bed.

Scrap values ( http://greengatemetals.co.uk/scrapmetal/prices/ ) for steel are about £0.16 per kg.
 
A new "genuine" 45lb CQR will cost over £800!! There are now better and cheaper alternatives. I don't want to start a "best anchor " discussion, but I sailed with a CQR for over 40 years, believing it was the best anchor available, before buying a Manson. The Manson is cheaper, sets more reliably, holds better and doesn't flop about and either nip your fingers or bruise your shins. The Manson, being shorter in length fits the locker better, and has a handy loop over the top to pick it up with.
 
robmcg said:
Are these anchors now totally out of fashion? I have a genuine CQR 45lb anchor in the garage and was wondering if it was worth anything?
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Yes, they are not the height of fashion.

In fact the reviews have proved they have got steadily less capable of holding a boat, over the years.

Sell it now. If things get any worse you might throw it over the side and it could fail to reach the bottom
 
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...now totally out of fashion?... No, but not high enough on most people's choice list to be worth a lot.

We spent 10 years in western Europe/The Med with a 'genuine' CQR as our main bower anchor and were very happy with it, despite the negative reports of others; we always felt that the CQR was as good as any, provided that it was set/dug-in properly to begin with, it's weakness being that it was far less forgiving of poor anchoring technique than the more modern designs.

I do think the 'genuine' bit is important, as we've seen lots of people struggle during these years with the various CQR copies. but even so its value reflects the price of the modern designs, rather than what seems the ludicrous cost of a 'new' CQR. When we got Moon Rebel I was looking around the Ionian (2011/12) for a second/spare anchor and could've got a 45lb CQR for €50 and I wish now that I'd bought it; at the same time I could've had my choice of similarly sized CQR 'copies' for between €0 and €10.

It should be worth £50, but your pool of potential buyers will be small.
 
>we always felt that the CQR was as good as any, provided that it was set/dug-in properly to begin with, it's weakness being that it was far less forgiving of poor anchoring technique than the more modern designs.

Agree, when snorkelling around boats in an anchorage I couldn't believe how many CQR's were lying on their side and hadn't been set at all. I think that's why they got a bad reputation, we never had a problem with our CQR because we set it properly.

As for anchor tests I don't believe them at all, they are all straight line pull whereas in real life they are angled snatch loads. I do wonder if the new anchors would beat the CQR if they all had the angled test.
 
KellysEye said:
>we always felt that the CQR was as good as any, provided that it was set/dug-in properly to begin with, it's weakness being that it was far less forgiving of poor anchoring technique than the more modern designs.

Agree, when snorkelling around boats in an anchorage I couldn't believe how many CQR's were lying on their side and hadn't been set at all. I think that's why they got a bad reputation, we never had a problem with our CQR because we set it properly.

As for anchor tests I don't believe them at all, they are all straight line pull whereas in real life they are angled snatch loads. I do wonder if the new anchors would beat the CQR if they all had the angled test.
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The tests I referred to were not all straight pulls. They included the ability to reset after a change in direction and were supported by both underwater photos and videos.

Fwiw, the CQR was the most expensive and had the worst results out of all the anchors tested.
 
robmcg said:
Are these anchors now totally out of fashion? I have a genuine CQR 45lb anchor in the garage and was wondering if it was worth anything?
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Put it on the for sale forum here. I think I got £20 for my 14lb CQR copy so you should get a reasonable amount for it, just put it on for more than you think it's worth and someone may respond. It's obvious but I'll say it anyway - it's worth nothing sitting in your garage so even if you only get a few quid you're better off.
 
I gave my genuine 45lb CQR to a friend as it was better than what he was using. I use a 60lb cqr which even in springtide/windy/crowded Newtown creek refused to drag ( and I know a fair bit about dragging there over the years ho ho)

There is always something better, its just a matter of where you are on the curve er innit! Quite fancy a RRRRocna next .
 
Blueboatman said:
I gave my genuine 45lb CQR to a friend as it was better than what he was using. I use a 60lb cqr which even in springtide/windy/crowded Newtown creek refused to drag ( and I know a fair bit about dragging there over the years ho ho)

There is always something better, its just a matter of where you are on the curve er innit! Quite fancy a RRRRocna next .
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It is at its best dug into the mud in Newtown - difficulty is often in getting it out rather than digging in. Unfortunately not everywhere has such good holding.
 
I love this forum. Around Christmas my son and I moved our new to us mk1 24' crabber from the Crouch to the Blackwater. Most of our sailing is in shallow estuaries with good east coast mud. I made an error of judgement and we grounded on the Buxey sandbank. No probs, east coasters are used to it. I chucked the hefty CQR over the bow, played out a good scope and put the kettle on whilst waiting for the rising tide to lift us off. The CQR refused to set. The Buxey is very hard sand so I now know why it wouldn't set. At times I could see it laying happily on its side. Expect it will be happy in our more usual soft mud.
 
KellysEye said:
As for anchor tests I don't believe them at all, they are all straight line pull whereas in real life they are angled snatch loads. I do wonder if the new anchors would beat the CQR if they all had the angled test.
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They're most certainly not all straight line pulls. And, as other posters have observed, the CQR is consistently poor at re-setting when the direction of pull changes significantly. How else could it be with a hinge in the middle?: surely it can't do anything but topple out of whatever hold it already had. If the rate of drag is then much higher than the gentle teasing you need to get it to grip in the first place, then it will not re-set.

Oh bo**ox...I've just reduced the value of my second back-up bower...:(
 
Tranona said:
It is at its best dug into the mud in Newtown - difficulty is often in getting it out rather than digging in. Unfortunately not everywhere has such good holding.
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But you could anchor in Newtown with a Broads mud weight. It's on hard sand where I had problems with the CQR, ploughing shallow furrows off Yarmouth until a buoy came free.
 
Its interesting that after around 80 years people cannot accept the idea that maybe, just possibly, technology might have moved on.

They can accept, welding (as long as its not for anchors), they can accept high tensile steels (as long as its not for anchors) and we have the internet, carbon fibre, iPads, digital cameras but they think the CQR is as good as anything the 21st Century has to offer. Luddites move over, give room for the Securites.

Quite, quite extraordinary.

Jonathan
 
>The tests I referred to were not all straight pulls. They included the ability to reset after a change in direction and were supported by both underwater photos and videos.

Have you got a link to that please.
 
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