wooslehunter
Well-Known Member
If you have a swinging mooring at Emsworth, you may be losing your genny. There's a boat over by the Thorney side almost opposite the service pontoon at Emsworth with the genny half unfurled & flogging to death.
Genny flogging on a mooring at Emsworth
- Thread starter wooslehunter
- Start date
Appleyard
Well-Known Member
Is nobody willing to go over and fix it?
Topcat47
Well-Known Member
You'd think, wouldn't you.....with Emsworth host to two sailing clubs and a marina.....perhaps they're all at work.
searover
Well-Known Member
Times we live in im afraid.plenty of talkers but no sailors sad really. have a nice day
Rabbie
Well-Known Member
Sid would not knowingly ignore it.
l'escargot
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
Times we live in im afraid.plenty of talkers but no sailors sad really. have a nice day
[/ QUOTE ]
...and plenty of people who leave their boats all season without giving them a thought or checking them out themselves, hoping others will do it for them.
Times we live in im afraid.plenty of talkers but no sailors sad really. have a nice day
[/ QUOTE ]
...and plenty of people who leave their boats all season without giving them a thought or checking them out themselves, hoping others will do it for them.
Appleyard
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
...and plenty of people who leave their boats all season without giving them a thought or checking them out themselves, hoping others will do it for them.
[/ QUOTE ]
So if you saw something like this,would you just ignore it?
...and plenty of people who leave their boats all season without giving them a thought or checking them out themselves, hoping others will do it for them.
[/ QUOTE ]
So if you saw something like this,would you just ignore it?
VicMallows
Well-Known Member
If weather behaves will be at boat tomorrow and will check .... think I know likely culprit very near me. (mine genny certainly still below!). Sadly, this is a very common occurrence these days.
Vic
Vic
l'escargot
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
...and plenty of people who leave their boats all season without giving them a thought or checking them out themselves, hoping others will do it for them.
[/ QUOTE ]
So if you saw something like this,would you just ignore it?
[/ QUOTE ]
No and I have secured sails, lines and fenders on boats near me although I probably wouldn't get my dinghy out, pump it up and row out to someone elses boat on a swinging mooring. It just annoys me that some of the owners clearly haven't been near their boats for weeks/months so I wonder why if they are not bothered, why should I be? In answer to your question "Is nobody willing to go over and fix it?" why not ask the owner?
The people who deserve to be criticised are the neglectful owners not other people.
[ QUOTE ]
...and plenty of people who leave their boats all season without giving them a thought or checking them out themselves, hoping others will do it for them.
[/ QUOTE ]
So if you saw something like this,would you just ignore it?
[/ QUOTE ]
No and I have secured sails, lines and fenders on boats near me although I probably wouldn't get my dinghy out, pump it up and row out to someone elses boat on a swinging mooring. It just annoys me that some of the owners clearly haven't been near their boats for weeks/months so I wonder why if they are not bothered, why should I be? In answer to your question "Is nobody willing to go over and fix it?" why not ask the owner?
The people who deserve to be criticised are the neglectful owners not other people.
fireball
Well-Known Member
Come off it guys - there is no water atm - and I doubt anyone wants to wade through that mud ....it's a High Tide job only!
oldharry
Well-Known Member
Just to give the pot a stir.... what about the legal aspect? If I go on to your boat to re-secure it, it then breaks free again and is damaged or destroyed, or if I do further damage as i try to secure it: could I not then be held liable for the damage? And indeed anything else 'wrong'. The ding in the side may have been there months, but how do I prove I did not do it?
Sailing on the Welsh coast, because I was always there mid week I often would go aboard other boats in the harbour to secure things if they werent right. That's the way it was in those days.
Nowadays on the litigatious (sp?) and unfriendly S Coast, I dont dare touch anybody elses property unless I know them, having had some very unfriendly encounters after trying to help.
Sailing on the Welsh coast, because I was always there mid week I often would go aboard other boats in the harbour to secure things if they werent right. That's the way it was in those days.
Nowadays on the litigatious (sp?) and unfriendly S Coast, I dont dare touch anybody elses property unless I know them, having had some very unfriendly encounters after trying to help.
I
Iota
Guest
[ QUOTE ]
[It just annoys me that some of the owners clearly haven't been near their boats for weeks/months so I wonder why if they are not bothered, why should I be? In answer to your question "Is nobody willing to go over and fix it?" why not ask the owner?
The people who deserve to be criticised are the neglectful owners not other people.
[/ QUOTE ]
Sometimes people cannot get to their boats for good reasons, I have a broken ankle and for nearly 6 weeks will be unable to visit my boat. My higher authority is checking every so often, if we had a problem she would call and I would direct.... Maybe good reasons why people cannot get to their boats
Iota
[It just annoys me that some of the owners clearly haven't been near their boats for weeks/months so I wonder why if they are not bothered, why should I be? In answer to your question "Is nobody willing to go over and fix it?" why not ask the owner?
The people who deserve to be criticised are the neglectful owners not other people.
[/ QUOTE ]
Sometimes people cannot get to their boats for good reasons, I have a broken ankle and for nearly 6 weeks will be unable to visit my boat. My higher authority is checking every so often, if we had a problem she would call and I would direct.... Maybe good reasons why people cannot get to their boats
Iota
Poignard
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
what about the legal aspect? I
[/ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't give it a thought. If something like that obviously needs doing I would do it and I hope someone might do the same for me.
If we all go around doing nothing to help anyone for fear of [probably imaginary] legal action, what sort of seamen are we?
what about the legal aspect? I
[/ QUOTE ]
I wouldn't give it a thought. If something like that obviously needs doing I would do it and I hope someone might do the same for me.
If we all go around doing nothing to help anyone for fear of [probably imaginary] legal action, what sort of seamen are we?
simonfraser
Well-Known Member
harry, don't stop using your initiative, there are bad apples everywhere, most sailors would only be too happy for someone to sort their sail out.
i tied some claning halyards off last week in a very obvious way, they're now tied off perfectly by the owner
i tied some claning halyards off last week in a very obvious way, they're now tied off perfectly by the owner
oldharry
Well-Known Member
As a matter of interest - did anyone go and sort it?
No names, no legal comeback.... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
No names, no legal comeback.... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
Appleyard
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
most sailors would only be too happy for someone to sort their sail out.
[/ QUOTE ]
Exactly!!!!.... If for any reason I was unable to do an urgent fix on my boat,I would be happy to buy a beer for the guy who was willing to help in my absence.And as for the legal aspect...well I am not a south coast little Englander.
We arrived at our boat last year to find that ,despite my having taped up every opening,a swarm of bees had mede their home in the holding tank(brave little b*'s) The bloke next door had found help in the form of the yard watchman who was an amateur beekeeper.Together they managed to coax them into a temporary hive,and by the time we arrived,the situation was under control. Drinks all round .
In contrast,on another occasion,the couple on an adjacent boat sat and watched while some starlings made their nests in our boom. "oh yes..we used to watch them going in and uot their nest while we were having our coffee" They were very upset and annoyed when I evicted the little blighters.
most sailors would only be too happy for someone to sort their sail out.
[/ QUOTE ]
Exactly!!!!.... If for any reason I was unable to do an urgent fix on my boat,I would be happy to buy a beer for the guy who was willing to help in my absence.And as for the legal aspect...well I am not a south coast little Englander.
We arrived at our boat last year to find that ,despite my having taped up every opening,a swarm of bees had mede their home in the holding tank(brave little b*'s) The bloke next door had found help in the form of the yard watchman who was an amateur beekeeper.Together they managed to coax them into a temporary hive,and by the time we arrived,the situation was under control. Drinks all round .
In contrast,on another occasion,the couple on an adjacent boat sat and watched while some starlings made their nests in our boom. "oh yes..we used to watch them going in and uot their nest while we were having our coffee" They were very upset and annoyed when I evicted the little blighters.
T_C
Well-Known Member
This happened a few years ago round here. It was blowing a hooley and I could hear a genny flogging around from the garden. I identified the boat and telephoned the owner who lives no more than 5 miles away.
He was most put out that I had the audacity to disturb his sunday lunch, rude ba$tard, after that there was no way I was going to go and fix it for him. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
He was most put out that I had the audacity to disturb his sunday lunch, rude ba$tard, after that there was no way I was going to go and fix it for him. /forums/images/graemlins/mad.gif
Athene V30
Well-Known Member
It is a sad fact of life now that not many care for other people or their possesions!
Had just the same in the boatyard this winter. One boat near me in early March looked like she had just been lifted out - fenders, warps, sails etc still on - and then the genny broke loose one night. The boat was bouncing everywhere in the cradle and at serious risk of damage or even tipping onto another boat.
When I got to my boat and saw this I told the boatyard staff who said they would be over. When they arrived they seemed a liitle unsure of what to do, so they held the ladder and I went onboard and sorted it as best I could - Genny was badly torn but probably repairable.
Boatyard phoned owner who said he would probably get down later!!
Not that I expect one but it would be nice to get a Thank You.
Had just the same in the boatyard this winter. One boat near me in early March looked like she had just been lifted out - fenders, warps, sails etc still on - and then the genny broke loose one night. The boat was bouncing everywhere in the cradle and at serious risk of damage or even tipping onto another boat.
When I got to my boat and saw this I told the boatyard staff who said they would be over. When they arrived they seemed a liitle unsure of what to do, so they held the ladder and I went onboard and sorted it as best I could - Genny was badly torn but probably repairable.
Boatyard phoned owner who said he would probably get down later!!
Not that I expect one but it would be nice to get a Thank You.
KINGFISHER 9
Well-Known Member
"Unfriendly South Coast" .... see above. What's that all about then?
l'escargot
Well-Known Member
[ QUOTE ]
[ QUOTE ]
It just annoys me that some of the owners clearly haven't been near their boats for weeks/months so I wonder why if they are not bothered, why should I be? In answer to your question "Is nobody willing to go over and fix it?" why not ask the owner?
The people who deserve to be criticised are the neglectful owners not other people.
[/ QUOTE ]
Sometimes people cannot get to their boats for good reasons, I have a broken ankle and for nearly 6 weeks will be unable to visit my boat. My higher authority is checking every so often, if we had a problem she would call and I would direct.... Maybe good reasons why people cannot get to their boats
Iota
[/ QUOTE ]
Then perhaps I place more value on my boat than other people appear to.
If there was any reason why I couldn't look after it personally then I would make alternative arrangements as you appear to have done. I certainly wouldn't rely on a random stranger noticing and attending to any problems. I certainly wouldn't issue a broad criticism of other people, who also may have good reasons for not assuming responsibility, for not doing it for me as some on here have.
There seems to be a trend throughout society these days of some people not accepting their own responsibilities and then blaming others for not accepting them on their behalf.
[ QUOTE ]
It just annoys me that some of the owners clearly haven't been near their boats for weeks/months so I wonder why if they are not bothered, why should I be? In answer to your question "Is nobody willing to go over and fix it?" why not ask the owner?
The people who deserve to be criticised are the neglectful owners not other people.
[/ QUOTE ]
Sometimes people cannot get to their boats for good reasons, I have a broken ankle and for nearly 6 weeks will be unable to visit my boat. My higher authority is checking every so often, if we had a problem she would call and I would direct.... Maybe good reasons why people cannot get to their boats
Iota
[/ QUOTE ]
Then perhaps I place more value on my boat than other people appear to.
If there was any reason why I couldn't look after it personally then I would make alternative arrangements as you appear to have done. I certainly wouldn't rely on a random stranger noticing and attending to any problems. I certainly wouldn't issue a broad criticism of other people, who also may have good reasons for not assuming responsibility, for not doing it for me as some on here have.
There seems to be a trend throughout society these days of some people not accepting their own responsibilities and then blaming others for not accepting them on their behalf.
