Generator Etiquite (test your skills VI)

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DAKA

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I was involved with an unfortunate incident at the 'Gaffers Regatta' over the weekend.

We had been without power for 3 days and I put my Generator ( Kippor 2600 ) on the bathing platform after offering everyone within extension reach to plug in.

Time

0930-1010 no problems or complaints

and 1930 , no sooner had I started it and retired inside with the doors closed there was a man jumping up and down waving his arms around.
He asked me to turn it off which I agreed almost immediately, he said I could put it back on in about 20 minutes when they went out but that would make it a bit late in my opinion.
Now the chap at the side of him came across ranting and raving like a lunatic, by now it had already been agreed for me to turn it off, all I needed to do was pop inside to unplug stuff

3 x mobile phones
1x Nintendo DS
1x electric shaver
2 x PMR radios
Hand held VHF
water scooter
remote control boat
Laptop computer
MP4
etc

Anyway he wouldn't let me go, he kept ranting and raving about how no one else needed a generator and I was the only one with one at the Yarmouth Naffers causing a nuisance.

Now I am asking what would you have done ?
We need power to get fresh water out the tanks, the loo is electric, alright we could manage without the TV/DVD but we are supposed to be enjoying ourselves not roughing it !

How do you manage 4 days without power ?

We run out of hot water after about 8 hours, power after a day or so.

What am I doing wrong ?
 
I'm thinking of putting said generator in the engine bay with eberspacher type exhaust fitted. couldn't give it a go and let me know if it works could you?
 
Cliff is the expert on this, found now on PBO I think.
I dont think it will work, overheating is the problem.
If you run your blowers they could draw more than you can put in ??
 
Thats a good idea, so you wait for someone to go out, place it in their cockpit so they get the black looks /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
I bet the ranting all stemmed from the fact his boat had already lost power and if he didn't silence you, his swmbo would have gone ballistic about why 'That boat has power.....why not us??'........ /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
I hate to say this, but I don't think I'd be wild about someone starting up a petrol genny at 7.30 pm on a peaceful Yarmouth evening either.

The answer is to do it at 1.00 am when the party boats have got into full swing: their noise will drown you out /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif.
 
Despite his rudeness I offered him power, at this point we were talking over the generator just as an outboard dinghy went by that drowned us out,after a pause he said' all motors should be banned', he must have motored to get in !
 
19:30 is too late to be running a generator especially a petrol one on in a crowded harbour like Yarmouth, simple as that, should have charged up earlier in the day.
Or get an inboard genny fitted with exhaust seperator, especially if you are that power hungry. Like I am!
 
Agree with JHR and Englander, 7.30 pm is too late, that's the time people are eating in their cockpits, or relaxing after food, and don't want the genny running. I doubt you'd have had any complaints a couple of hours cearlier.
 
Agreed, its too late although if I remember there is/was a sign that said gennys not to be used after 8PM.

Few years back we were moored next to a Corsair in Yarmouth that had the noisest petrol generator going. Think V8 petrol with srtaight through exhausts in terms of noise. Not a very popular man!
 
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Agreed, its too late although if I remember there is/was a sign that said gennys not to be used after 8PM.


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The rules are 2200 hrs, I thought up until 2000 was alright but not if anyone disagrees (which they did).




Inner Harbour Rules 1. SPEED LIMIT - 4 knots in river and Harbour to Dolphin at entrance. 6 knots from Dolphin to Fairway Buoy and through all outer moorings. Note that speed limits will be strictly enforced. 2. MOORING - All vessels must moor individually to piles or on pontoons. Allocation of visitors' moorings is as directed by Harbour staff. 3. ANCHORING - No anchoring within the Harbour except in an emergency. No anchoring or mooring in the river. 4. NOISE - No static running motors to be operated between 2200 and 0700. 5. PROHIBITED - No swimming, sailboarding or water-skiing in the Harbour. 6. PETS - No animals allowed on foreign visiting craft unless in possession of a pet passport. 7. ADVERTISING - No advertising on vessels without the permission of the Harbour Master.


So well done to all those that gave the correct reply of 'tell him to ........... /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif

not meant as a serious post /forums/images/graemlins/wink.gif
 
I think a bit of common sense applies.... I would say that anytime after 10.30 and before 6pm is ok....

I note that you went inside and "Closed the door behind you" ...... most of us raggies are out in the cockpit wanting a nice quite evening with a glass of wine... and I have to say that even as a stinky I hated the sound of gennys... and many many many times saw behaviour exactly as you described... dinner over, tv on, check batteries, oops.... genny on the bathing platform.... brrrrrrrmmmmmm.... bloke disappears behind closed patio door leaving all the rest of us with the noise....

You need to think about power managment... so you need to be thinking in advance when you are gonna run the genny or engine to charge... dont leave it 48 hourse either as the discharge will be considerable and will need more charging.... when the raggies fire up join in...

One thing that has always amazed me about powerboats was despite the odvious power hunger they have they seem to have a real head in the sand attitude towards conservation when at anchor, or using things like solar or Wind to generate power....

Here are a few things to think about...

1) replace the halogens with LED's.
2) Check your fridge insulation, usualy its totally insufficient.
3) Charge all the little things like laptops and phones when you are going along...
4) How about some solar? lots of deck space, easy to charge portable devices with small portable panels...
5) Solar anchor lite.
6) Get some bigger domestic batteries with a smart charger and upgrade the alternator...
7) Break the mould and put on a decent wind generator....
8) Go to bed when the sun goes down..


Sitting on a moorring or at anchor is one of the best bits of boating... and I HATE having to run the engine to charge the batteries... totally disturbs the peace.... It was the same when I had our S34 and our Fairline 36... with all the space you guys have and the abundant engine power I would have thought that you could come up with a lot of solutions for providing power or reducing consumption...

BTW I can go 48 hours on our 150amps before we need a 2 hour charge... and then I top it up about 1 hour a day on the engine... which I will always do during the day or when others are charging....

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At the Folly there is no running of static motors after 7pm and many marinas have similar restrictions. I think it should apply to eberspachers as well which are equally anti social. Either plug into the mains or anchor up on your own where you won't bother anyone else.
 
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