Gas Bottle Out.

[James_Calvert]

My theory over leaking camping gas bottles is that if they leaked they would be empty before you bought them. Difficult to see how they might then leak before connecting up, when the seal is disturbed by the insertion of the regulator.

They are not like calor which have an exposed valve.

 

[boomerangben]

I have one of the OPs stoves as my only means of cooking. It’s just stopped this season - no spark to start it now. They are ok but struggle on a long cook - the can cools down so much, the gas stops vaporising and it goes on a go slow

 

[LiftyK]

Campingaz 901s make great spare gas cylinders for 907 users, though I understand they are hard to find these days.
Very expensive way to buy gas but the convenience of the size, ease of swapping when needed and security of the screw-down sealing cap make up for it. Much easier to store than a second 907.

Is the 901 the smallest refillable Camping Gaz bottle? If so, I keep one on top of my 907 in my gas locker. My pals tell me that Camping Gaz (Calor) no longer refill them. I’ve not investigated this myself yet.

 

[vas]

slightly off topic, anyone had a full faulty gas cylinder? 3lt one heavy, could hear the liquid moving about, connected, nada :-(
what I'm saying even having a spare is not 100% that you actually have gas to cook dinner - had to cut a 1 week short break halfway through due to that last Sept...
So this year going to get a small one hob induction as backup

 

[Whaup367]

Is the 901 the smallest refillable Camping Gaz bottle? If so, I keep one on top of my 907 in my gas locker. My pals tell me that Camping Gaz (Calor) no longer refill them. I’ve not investigated this myself yet.

Yes, 400g butane refillable. I dug around a little after posting and it seems they are  are discontinued. Sadly unsurprising given the eye-watering cost per Kg for the gas inside, limited market and challenges with efficiently refilling but the convenience of the package made up for it, for me.
It seems unreasonable that gas in a canister that is used once and thrown away should be cheaper than refilling a more robust cylinder that's designed for extended use but I guess that's the way of the world at the moment :-(.

I understand why this is the case, it just seems wrong.

It's not much help on a boat, I fear, but I will probably get a Campingaz twin connector when my current 901s are empty, this allows either R907s or CV470s to be used, so the small CV canisters act as backup for the R907. Those are propane mix filled, too, so ought to be useful in the event of unusually low temperatures but I don't think the regulator is marine rated; fine for my campervan (which is where I use Campingaz) but maybe not on a boat (where I have the luxury of a bigger gas locker and hence use Calor butane & propane).

 

[James_Calvert]

slightly off topic, anyone had a full faulty gas cylinder? 3lt one heavy, could hear the liquid moving about, connected, nada :-(
what I'm saying even having a spare is not 100% that you actually have gas to cook dinner - had to cut a 1 week short break halfway through due to that last Sept...
So this year going to get a small one hob induction as backup

I had a Camping Gas 907 when my spare turned out to have a damaged thread preventing the regulator screwing in. It was obvious externally, but I hadn't noticed, I check now. I took it to a regional depot for exchange. The guy who dealt with it jammed a screwdriver or something onto the ball that seals the cylinder from the inside when it's not in use. A good squirt of gas emerged. Apparently it's been known for people to try to return an apparently faulty but full cylinder for a full replacement, only to discover it's full of water, not gas...

 

[LiftyK]

Yes, 400g butane refillable. I dug around a little after posting and it seems they are  are discontinued. Sadly unsurprising given the eye-watering cost per Kg for the gas inside, limited market and challenges with efficiently refilling but the convenience of the package made up for it, for me.
It seems unreasonable that gas in a canister that is used once and thrown away should be cheaper than refilling a more robust cylinder that's designed for extended use but I guess that's the way of the world at the moment :-(.

I understand why this is the case, it just seems wrong.

It's not much help on a boat, I fear, but I will probably get a Campingaz twin connector when my current 901s are empty, this allows either R907s or CV470s to be used, so the small CV canisters act as backup for the R907. Those are propane mix filled, too, so ought to be useful in the event of unusually low temperatures but I don't think the regulator is marine rated; fine for my campervan (which is where I use Campingaz) but maybe not on a boat (where I have the luxury of a bigger gas locker and hence use Calor butane & propane).

Very good thinking. Thanks for this suggestion. It’s going to be this or DIY refill of the 901.