Gas bottle holder

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I'm going to mount my gas bottle on the pushpit because making a gas tight locker would be a right royal pain.
Does anyone of a stainless steel gas bottle holder on the market?
Cheers
Rob
 
I was having a chat with a mate a couple of weeks ago regarding "gas tight" lockers...

i may have missed something, but why gas tight?

i was always led to believe that the locker should be venilated to the outside of the hull from it's lowest point, so that any spilled/escape could safely disperse.

can any gas engineer types comment?

cheers,

steve.
 
Yes & yes. It should be gastight except for the overboard drain! The drain should not be valved as the gastight box will direct any sudden pressure down it and the flow must not be constricted in such an event.

I believe it is fairly common in the USA to hang a bottle off the rails, perhaps you can track down a S/S fitting there?
 
Rob,

Sounds like things are progessing well!

We looked at a Catalina in north wales that had a gas bottle mounted in a stainless cradle on the transom - seemed like a sensible solution, but imagine it would rust very quickly in the salty environment?

I seem to recall it was a Catalina 38 (?) may be worth a search - I think it was on boatshed but has probably gone now - could be worth a search for a picture.

I'm sure a stainless fabricator could knock one up quickly for not very much.

Jonny
 
The Pardeys have their gas bottles in a ventilated wooden locker on deck, which looks a lot better than a s/s rack would. There's a photo of it in one of their books.
 
But IIRC according to the Boat safety scheme it only needs to be gastight to above the level of the high pressure components. If the locker is gas tight then in addition to the drain it must also have a vent.
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Which means it won't be gas tight! I seem to be agreeing with you on here great deal lately Vic. Why don't you say something daft for a change so I can argue?

I am surprised how many people on here don't seem to understand basic physics.
Perhaps if they were to consider the gas to be water (no difference they are both heavier than air) they would understand that the "water" would probably not go down a little hole in the bottom if the top was sealed. Vent the top and water will be replaced by air and go down t'ole... simple. There is NO POINT in making the lid of a gas locker air tight. Defeats the object.
 
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The Pardeys have their gas bottles in a ventilated wooden locker on deck, which looks a lot better than a s/s rack would. There's a photo of it in one of their books.

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I have given this some thought and i would of liked to of do this.
But the tiller sweeps the whole of the aft part of the deck on my boat.
So i would have to fit it on the rail which brings me back to fitting it to the rail?

Any thoughts?

Rob
 
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Not really. I'm biased in favour of wood because I have the tools to make things in wood [and a lot of wood lying about!] but I don't have s/s welding equipment, so I would have to pay someone to make it for me ! If I had no choice but to hang the bottles on the aft pulpit I would go for the small 907 Gaz bottles and make a teak box for them to hang on the rail.
 
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Rob,

Sounds like things are progressing well!

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Its getting there.
At the moment i have all the wiring ripped out some of the teak capping off, most of the stanchions off.
I just have to seal the margin boards on the deck and refit the stanchions and I'm nearly there!!

All the plugging of the decks is done (I thought that was never going to end!!)
I have the engine refitted (all 4 engine mounts had snapped)
The radar is away for repair
The windlass is now working
The bow thruster now works
I have a chain and an anchor, dont know what happened to the last ones?
I have nearly cured all my leaks
I have removed the bilge pump switch that stopped me opening the chart table.
I have taken all the water out of the chart table and put the fish back in the sea.


The last big job is sails and that more of a money thing. They are all in tatters only the main is salvageable

I have pictures!!
Rob
 
Good thread - thanks for some new ideas on where to put the gas bottles. Mine are in the chain locker and I'm not very happy about that. A previous owner installed the electric switchgear for the anchor windless in the same place!

If bottles are moved to the pushpit, does that mean gas won't so easily flow to cooker in cold weather? Also I read that some gas comes in green plastic bottles - presumably they won't rust.
 
We're pondering the same arrangement. You might find a stainless fender-storage cage the right size - and they're designed to fit to rails.
 
I though that the idea of "gas tight" was in reference to the sealing of the locker to stop gas from entering the inside of the boat and filling the bilge or your cabin, rather than just to contain the gas with a box.
While you're in there don't miss the chance to fit a remote cut-off.
 
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