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Europe's proposed satellite-navigation system, Galileo, faces big delays and cost overruns unless major obstacles to its development are removed - and fast.

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...says the BBC. Something about "a p***-up" and "a brewery", says I.

.......Now where did I put my brass GPS?




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I don't know why we continue to be conned that the EU can organise any major project. I'm continually horrified by the ridiculous lenghts "Brussels" goes to to waste our money "promoting" medical research without actually spending any money on the research itself. Apparently the only thing which stops us Europeans from competing effectively with the US in the field of biotec is the problems of communication! Only the French and Belgians refuse to accept that we all converse in English anyway.
Rant over - I'm off to Paris to waste some EU money "getting to know" my fellow european colleagues (who were all at a meeting in England last week anyway!). Sorry - I did say the rant was over.
 
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Only the French and Belgians refuse to accept that we all converse in English anyway.

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Hey, I heard that! Obviously, you've never set foot on a symposium in Belgium. English only, since otherwise, we couldn't agree which of our three official languages to use anyway...
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The date for Galileo going live is 2011/2. The promise is for greatly improved performance of our nav toys.

With this in mind I decided to defer buying a new plotter until I see what products are offered using the new system. (I have to update the charts this year mind)

This situation is good when you think about it. It stops us throwing money at new gadgets that appear so good on the adverts but in fact give only minor incremental improvements.
 
Ha ha ha! Sorry. As Rickp says, Egnos hasn't gone live yet, despite many go live dates that have been moved back for years. Galileo is vastly more complex, and is in difficulty already. So highly unlikely to go live until 2020 if then.
 
hoho. For the french especially, the whole justification oif Galilieo is that it "isn't American". The yanks have nice short memories and french fries are back throughout the US. But the french still hate the fact that they were saved in WW2, a quite natual phenomenon i understand - to hate one's saviour.
 
The war was 62 years ago.
You would think we would have moved on since then - the rest of the world has!

Meanwhile - the French/"Europeans" have cornered the satellite launching market (Arianne) and have explored the solar system as far as Saturn (Huygens mission). The UK's most notable contribution so far: Beagle 2 - which missed Mars altogether.

And to remain topical: the French nuclear deterrent is truly independent. Home grown, manufactured & developed. Whilst we pay the Yanks to "lease" one.
Just as we stopped paying for WWII.
 
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And to remain topical: the French nuclear deterrent is truly independent. Home grown, manufactured & developed. Whilst we pay the Yanks to "lease" one.
Just as we stopped paying for WWII.

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We may have made the final payment for WWII recently - but we long since defaulted on the payments to the Yanks for WW1!!/forums/images/graemlins/blush.gif
 
I understand that in agreement with the European Union we have committed to using Galileo for future " road pricing ".This was part of the justification for having Galileo in case no-one else (us sailors) uses it." Road Pricing "will therefore be a long way off.
 
GPS gives me my position to within the width of my boat. I can steer into the marina lock "blind" using the plotter.

How much better do you want the performance to be?
 
Hmmmm

Considering the performance of the organisation doing the installation process I would'nt hold out too much hope for it's reliability, and even less for potential repair times.

Considering how much use the US government and military make of GPS it seem fairly unlikely that they will turn it off. If they need to they have the capability of degrading the accuracy in a specific area for "operational" reasons.

Seems to be a very expensive exercise in anti-americanism.
 
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the issue isnt accuracy, it reliability /forums/images/graemlins/cool.gif

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And independence - Pentagon can't turn it off

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Ah Ha .... but I read a report on G - that the US had argued a clause in its operation that it COULD be turned off .... that it will not be operating if US + EU decide conflict is imminent etc.
I wouldn't underestimate Uncle Sam in this ..... they may be a bit daft sometimes like all others etc. - but I don't think they will let this one go !
 
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