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Does anyone know of a good place to layup in France next winter?! Keep it clean boys and girls please! I'm wanting to take my Sadler 32 down the Seine and the Rhone, and on to Greece, and have heard that taking a boat out in France can be cheaper than the UK. Any suggestions, ball park figures or hints and trips about sources of info for the trip would be gratefully received.

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There is a marina at Carrières sous Poissy about 20 miles west of Paris. It's a bit (very) run down but at least it's cheap.

John

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Thanks guys -that's just the sort of info I'm looking for - how cheap is cheap? Do I have to sell my body on the Paris streets?

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Will you need to take her out of the water? My boat hasn't been lifted for 2 years - fresh water means negligible fouling. I'm also on the way to the Mediterranean. We are in a safe marina on the river Saone for this winter. My boat is about the same length as yours and costs £45 a month. Last winter she was in Paris and that cost about £160 a month.

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Thanks for your reply. I do like to take her out every other year and thought it better to do that in France as I wont be there to check lines etc. Where would the nearest airport be to you if I were to look for some cheap flights? £34 per month certainly sounds very reasonable and is about what I am paying for my mooring in Cornwall.

Can you give me any more info on traveling through France to the med? What made you stay where you are?

Best wishes

Sian

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For comeing out your in luck! before the Euro it cost about 1000ffr in and out now it costs 150euros to come out and goback in plus about 50euros more for between 3 to 5 days on land. 200euros is the private or integrated crane in or by a port public for example St tropez or port st louise
In St Raphale is a travel lift there you pay jus a little more for the lifting and for a 10meter boat perhaps 80 euros for 5 days normaly you should book two or three weeks in advance depending on season and your need (if its urgent such as your sinking they can take you at once but you will be able to stay one day also in st raphael is the port public with a private crane i recently aked the price i think for three days (almost maximum) the total cost was 150euros!!!
As for a place to stay thats far more dificult, If you tell me which month ill suggest some places with a place if you say june to september then almost every thing is full and in Italy reserved

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That all seems like very good value to me. How good does your French have to be to cope with all this? Do you have to have an ICC too?

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I would think you wont have to many problems as there is normaly some one that can speak English, the price trarif list can mostly be found somewhere other wise just give your boats length and weight and a date on paper and you will be given a price and a possiable date back!
No problems for a plastic boat, but i have a wooden boat and when i go to a yard or even the private port in Menton they run away!!! Oh yes the crane owner in the public port of Menton is English and more expensive but the the language would be no problem!!!
Most places are worried a wooden boat will never be finnished-so i go to places that know me and when they say three, max five days, thats what it is as normaly by now they want you out, painted, and in, in a day!! if you can then you get a good price-with a wooden boat -i always do my topsides with 3 coats =three days plus one for sanding and one for antifouling. the plesure and comfort of a wooden boat verses the funtionality of plastic.!!

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We are in Seurre, a little south of St Jean de Losne. A very small marina, which has a live in harbour master who personally walks round the pontoons every evening and checks the lines.

Dijon has an airport I believe and that is pretty close, though I know nothing about flights there. We always use the car because there always seem to be so many things to take off/to the boat. We bought a block of return tickets from SeaFrance which gives a big saving and you can travel at peak times for no extra charge.

When we left the Canal du Centre we joined the Saone at Chalons, where we had hoped to stay but there was a shortage of berths due to work planned for the winter.

Once you get south of Paris and off the river Seine you will start to enjoy the trip far more than you can imagine. We had planned to do the trip to the Med in about 6 weeks but have taken 17 weeks so far, spread over 2 summers.


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Depends on where and when you do it.

The lift-out is generally much cheaper, but hard-standing ashore generally far more expensive.

Most boats in France only come out for scrub-down and antifoul - there is not the habit or space for boats standing around for 4-5 months a year as in the UK.

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Please may I come back to you when I have more time to write? I suspect you could shed a lot of light on the trip we are planning!

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Thank you for all the information you have given - may I mail you again when I have time to write?

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Hi! I have seen boats out of the water at Molaix and was really hoping to track down a yard nearer to Le Havre ready for the trip up the river in the following spring. My Sadler does have a touch of osmosis so I like to let her dry out from time to time. Any ther ideas?

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On problem im often online at the moment,just this morning i was planning to post a list of places which hopefully you can stop at and are mostly free for one to three days and to point out that the Italians who hopefully still offer free transit berths (i say hopefully as every few months free becomes paid and the Free is moved somewhere less agreeable) Have a sytem to ensure you dont take them for granted--if you ask often you can stay longer, if you dont ask but stay anyway they charge you 240 Euros per night!!!!
Ive only seen one boat with a swiss flag, abuse the system and i was told it had been there more than a month waiting for the next regatta, and of course stopping another from benifiting with stop over!

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