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Paul
Did you get my PM in reply to your PM ?, dodgy connection here and it failed just at the wrong moment so no idea if it was sent or not
Cheers
Dave
 
This business of helping vs services for a fee is interesting.

At one club there are some pontoons paid for by the European Something Or Other. The point is that we didn't really pay for them. Initially there were some heated discussions over whether we should charge visitors. I was against charging.

Anyway the debate raged on and it seemed to me that some of those in favour of charging were motivated by greed. But most of them had a sense of rightiousness. A sort of 'nobody should get anything for nothing' approach.

I have to say that there is a real pleasure to be had in helping someone out of a fix. Especially when they are a little surprised that there is no charge.

I have had the priviledge of making things easier for someone to lay alongside for the night, or get to the shops. I have also been the beneficiary of the kindness of others on numerous occasions.

On the psychobabble front the word 'altruism' is the one to google. Powerful stuff: Makes me feel good about myself and them feel good about themselves. And not a Broker or Chandler in sight.

Paul

PS: I understand that an altruistic act making me feel good about myself is slightly problematic but this is a mere detail and not to be confused with useful information.
 
Of course a true altruist would not recognise his (or her) condition, and thus be blissfully unaware, which mainly, this is, except we couldn't possibly know it.

Moral compass anyone?
 
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Of course a true altruist would not recognise his (or her) condition, and thus be blissfully unaware, which mainly, this is, except we couldn't possibly know it.

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Mindlessness as a solution to the altruistic dilemma!

Brilliant! You've Done It!

I need to sit down.

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Humber chart will be made available when Nathan reaches Wells
Charts on loan from one skint boater to another so no reason they can't be loaned to yet another skint boater, is there Ken ?

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No problem Dave, I was going to suggest the same offer, also available for loan is the "Forth, Tyne, Dogger, Humber" Henry Irving pilot book.....

Just ask if you need it Nathan.
 
I am with Noddy.

Helping others make a difference to how people feel about the world and themselves. We all make choices about how we deal with people and, it is the totality of these decisions that is what makes the world the place it is.

Random acts of kindness is an interesting way of thinking about things. I would prefer to know the value of things rather than the price. ( although if anybody knows of a pub with decent cheap beer I could be persuaded to flip on that one).

Paul.
 
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Humber chart will be made available when Nathan reaches Wells
Charts on loan from one skint boater to another so no reason they can't be loaned to yet another skint boater, is there Ken ?

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No problem Dave, I was going to suggest the same offer, also available for loan is the "Forth, Tyne, Dogger, Humber" Henry Irving pilot book.....

Just ask if you need it Nathan.

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Nathan, thats the one I was talking about but couldnt find on my (pink /forums/images/graemlins/tongue.gif) boat. It starts where your ECP stops I believe.
 
One thing I think may be worth mentioning is that Nathan hasn't, and I don't think he's likely to, asked for any of this help. Similar to my own predicament last year when Clive kindly made the offer of the use of a mooring for free, I knew I needed some stuff but wasn't entirely sure what. Now have most things needed thanks to those on here, including a DSC VHF which arrived in my aft locker mysteriously.
Point being, if Nathan isn't going to ask and may not even know if something is going to be useful, maybe those that meet him could shout if anything is noticed. I understand David (Lensman) has been aboard already so maybe he can have a think and see if there's anything that maybe someone can help out with ?
The source for a good cheap beer could prove to be difficult though
 
The Carpenter’s Arms, Wighton, Wells-next-the-Sea, Norfolk
See, I can find a pub no problem, finding an anchorage is something else /forums/images/graemlins/grin.gif
 
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Well, yes I would. This is 2009. Nobody can sail 'skint'. Everything costs money. Without funding, sooner or later (sooner in this case) you will rely on other peoples charity.

It is at this point that I lose all respect for the venture.

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This saddens me, honestly. I can't see what I've done that's got your back up so much?

As for the PM, which I'm gong to post below, what in there suggests I had or have any intention of relying on charity? £1 or £10,000, I'm going around, and that's that. If I have to work or sell parts, then so be it.

What people have done for me has made this journey both a pleasure and indeed considerably safer, and I will forever be in debt to them for it, but I would have done it anyway, one way of another.

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Hi Anteak,

I saw that not only had you posted pretty negative and indeed inaccurate comments on skuttlebutt, but also in the ECF. I just thought, since you are wrong on so many of your points, I would offer you a small CV.

Now, I don't have masses of sailing experience, but your conjecture that I'm clueless is a bit insulting.

Kudu is in fact my 4th sailing boat. The middle two being experiences in boat maintenance, rather than water time. A Leisure 17, in which I learned how to sail a keelboat (by myself, in a river), a T24, a Stag 28, and my current Corribee.

My first sailing lesson was in a GP14, on Southport marine lake. After a few of those, I went on to do an RYA keelboat course in Preston Docks.

Despite teaching myself how to navigate (aided by years of mountaineering experience) I joined the Little Ships Club in London, and did the 10 week Day Skipper Theory, which I passed of course.

As for molly coddling, well, that's certainly not something I desire. I'm not sure how you derive my need for wrapping in cotton wool, from peoples' kindness. Their advice and help are very welcome, because it means I learn quicker, but they certainly aren't sailing with me. I have to do that bit on my own.

As for the charts, yes, I did set off with only a portfolio to cover me until the North Thames. That was a calculated risk, not a decision through ignorance. The fact is I set off with no money, and that's the situation I have to work with. You might need to feel the comfort of a few thousand quid of bailout if it goes wrong funds, but I don't. I will overcome any problems I encounter one way or another, and the fact that people around here have been nothing but generous is testament to their character, not my weakness.


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Right, well anyway, it's time for me to give back some charity to Alan by way of a few rounds in the bar. I've not eaten yet, so I can see this going pear shaped /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
Nathan don't worry about him "there can only be one"
Say to him next time,I,m doing it Kud u /forums/images/graemlins/laugh.gif
 
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