bilbobaggins
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Came across this in a French tidetables booklet....
Disturbing.
Disturbing.
Fouling our own nests
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dmmbruce
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Yes, very thought provoking.
May be of questionable accuracy, but obviously right in principle.
Mike
May be of questionable accuracy, but obviously right in principle.
Mike
Seems to be all in a foreign language.Dos'nt worry me in the slightest
jellyellie
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There's a really interesting display in the Yarmouth, IoW marina office along the same lines. Worth a look if you're there.
nct1
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So hamburgers take 80 years to break down, frightening !!
Moodyjim
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and tampons last forever!!
Elessar
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So what do you chuck over the side?
My rule is if I've eaten it or could eat it it goes over. The former only at sea.
But having seem the apple core on that thing I wonder if that's right.
But when I started sailing if we were in deep water we used to fill bottles and cans so they would sink and chuck them over. That horrifies me now. Even then we used to cut the plastic loops from 4pack of cans just in case they fell over the side, but wouldn't dream of throwing them over so we weren't complete yobs.
Manuals from the 1930s told you to dispose of waste oil over the side!!
But what's your rule now?
My rule is if I've eaten it or could eat it it goes over. The former only at sea.
But having seem the apple core on that thing I wonder if that's right.
But when I started sailing if we were in deep water we used to fill bottles and cans so they would sink and chuck them over. That horrifies me now. Even then we used to cut the plastic loops from 4pack of cans just in case they fell over the side, but wouldn't dream of throwing them over so we weren't complete yobs.
Manuals from the 1930s told you to dispose of waste oil over the side!!
But what's your rule now?
Searush
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I carry everything back to harbour in old supermarket bags. If we are away from civilisation for a couple of weeks, I collect several bags, with handles knotted, in a cockpit locker until I can bin the stuff.
Sadly, my local harbour does not encourage recycling. Maybe in future I will try to sort stuff to carry home for recycling. Washing containers out in seawater is easy & flattening tins etc is a doddle.
Sadly, my local harbour does not encourage recycling. Maybe in future I will try to sort stuff to carry home for recycling. Washing containers out in seawater is easy & flattening tins etc is a doddle.
webcraft
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IS that so bad?
We sank cans and bottles occasionally when we were well offshore in water over a mile deep during our recent gap year and I have to say I haven't lost any sleep over it, even though I am a notorious treehugger of this parish.
- W
Not sure if that is truly terrible in very deep water well offshore - hard to see what harm tin and glass will do, might make a home for something. They are making artificial reefs out of car tyres now.
We sank cans and bottles occasionally when we were well offshore in water over a mile deep during our recent gap year and I have to say I haven't lost any sleep over it, even though I am a notorious treehugger of this parish.
- W
mikehibb
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Not exactly boaty, but on the same theme of can disposal etc.
When I was in the scouts, we had BBB for cans when out camping.
Burn em
Bash em
Bury em
When I was in the scouts, we had BBB for cans when out camping.
Burn em
Bash em
Bury em
snowleopard
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There's really no excuse for throwing things over the side when your next port is less than a couple of days away. On an ocean passage it's a different story. The rules I and many other skippers operate are-
Cans: puncture and sink
Bottles: fill and sink
Food waste: overside
Paper: ditto
Plastics: wash & store.
I understand that in Ireland you can't take your waste to a convenient bin ashore. I wonder how much additional dumping at sea that causes.
Woodlouse
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Read marpol to see what you can and cannot bin over the side. Basically, once you're far enough off shore anything goes except plastic and oil.
People have tried to tell me before how long apple cores and the like take to decompose, but I'm afraid I'm skeptical. When did you last see a banana skin float by?
People have tried to tell me before how long apple cores and the like take to decompose, but I'm afraid I'm skeptical. When did you last see a banana skin float by?
Vara
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If an aluminium can lasts 200 years in the ocean, why can't they make outdrives/outboards out of the same material.
Reading the anguished cries of the Moboers they seem to have a life of only a few years.
Sitting in glorious sunshine off Dover with 1.8 knots of wind across the deck
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Reading the anguished cries of the Moboers they seem to have a life of only a few years.
Sitting in glorious sunshine off Dover with 1.8 knots of wind across the deck
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sea
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Not many people know about 'The Great Pacific Garbage Patch' an area of 'Plastic Soup' that streches about 500 nautical miles between USA past Hawaii and almost to Japan. Around 100 million tonnes of our rubbish. Ok not all has been dumped overboard by YBW users, but for the largest landfill in the world it is not all that well reported.
http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...at-stretches-from-hawaii-to-japan-778016.html
http://www.independent.co.uk/enviro...at-stretches-from-hawaii-to-japan-778016.html
TheCrimsonVicar
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I'm with you on this one Webby.
JasonClark
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Interesting thread this one, I watched a programme on TV only a couple years ago about our planet, It amazed me just how strong the place we live in is, it also made me realize, that all this environment friendly stuff that goes on is actually there to save "US" as a species and for the better for us humans and animals that share the world with us, its nothing to do with the planet itself, as the programme showed the absolute unbelievably devastating scenario's this planet has endured and has and will continue to do, is always recover, albeit somethings have taken millions of years.
And it said at the end of the show,Tomorrow this planet could take a hit from a huge asteroid, wipe out all living things, the planet will go on and make a new series of nature, we wont.
Quite humbling in my opinion.
And it said at the end of the show,Tomorrow this planet could take a hit from a huge asteroid, wipe out all living things, the planet will go on and make a new series of nature, we wont.
Quite humbling in my opinion.
puddock
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I have regularly sunk a few cans and bottles but unfortunately not while offshore ..........
jason -and the arguenauts
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seems terrible until you remember that the earth was formed 4500 million years ago so the timescales we are talking of here are trivial.
to me the issue is much more one of waste of resources, and messing up the environment and the effect on living creatures. the things that we dont yet have the technology to recycle can be burried with no great problem because they all will go in a reasonable time scale if not in our lifetimes. and in any case, this years rubbish dump is next years resource as you see with the processing of mine tailings.
to me the issue is much more one of waste of resources, and messing up the environment and the effect on living creatures. the things that we dont yet have the technology to recycle can be burried with no great problem because they all will go in a reasonable time scale if not in our lifetimes. and in any case, this years rubbish dump is next years resource as you see with the processing of mine tailings.
bilbobaggins
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Phew! That's 'trailing one's coat' in more ways than one......
There will soon be a whole bunch of protesters on 'ere presently, howling you down as a heretic, and insisting you recant 'cos as 'asanifulno', the Earth And All God's Critturs were created just 4004 BCA; Adam hunted for Diplodocus steaks to go with his Pterodactyl egg omelettes; the Sun, Moon and Stars Revolve Around the Earth just like in those astro-navigation lectures and in the Approved List of Books; and all those bones buried in layers deep in the world's peatbogs have been planted there by a huge conspiracy....
As for all the landfill, surely no-one objects to charming little starveling children in impoverished countries scratching a bare living by sifting through our old yogurt pots, BubblePak and Val Doonican CDs......
Do they?
sea
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Phew! That's 'trailing one's coat' in more ways than one......
There will soon be a whole bunch of protesters on 'ere presently, howling you down as a heretic, and insisting you recant 'cos as 'asanifulno', the Earth And All God's Critturs were created just 4004 BCA; Adam hunted for Diplodocus steaks to go with his Pterodactyl egg omelettes; the Sun, Moon and Stars Revolve Around the Earth just like in those astro-navigation lectures and in the Approved List of Books; and all those bones buried in layers deep in the world's peatbogs have been planted there by a huge conspiracy....
As for all the landfill, surely no-one objects to charming little starveling children in impoverished countries scratching a bare living by sifting through our old yogurt pots, BubblePak and Val Doonican CDs......
Do they?
You forgot the bit about those impoverished little children diving to the bottom of putrid pools of liquid that form in landfills to retrieve batteries that have been disposed of. How could we take that bit of fun away!?
