Fly tipping at Osea

tillergirl said:
I believe the rule already on Osea is tht it is a private beach and visitors may land on the bit up to the high water line. Not that its enforced.
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May not be enforced yet, but if the island becomes a holiday resort attitudes may change.
We had a similar situation on the Crouch regarding beach access. It's difficult to argue legal issues when you have kids playing and some-ones holding a 12 bore and telling you to get off his land.
No doubt I'm worrying unduly.
 
I and fellow club members have emailed Osea Island in respect to this obstruction.

I know my club will kick up a stink over this issue.
Guess also Blackwater Sailing Club will also be unhappy.

Email for Osea-- joanne@oseaisland.co.uk

Only contact i have found, might be worth asking questions..
 
Had a good look over yesterday. An immediate concern is there is an extended hazard and to what extent it will affect us now when afloat. Some of my images taken (see via link) may help you to decide for yourself.
 
if the person who put the debris there is the same one who has put in the planning application, it may well prejudice progress of the application.

Has anyone on the ECF spoken with the Env Agency ?
 
DanTribe said:
It's difficult to argue legal issues when you have kids playing and some-ones holding a 12 bore and telling you to get off his land.
No doubt I'm worrying unduly.
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ANYONE who makes a threat of that nature while holding a weapon is going to do time. And deserves it.

Are you speaking from direct personal experience, or is this a theoretical event ?


BTW

Is there any link betweent the present owner(s) and any other people who were involved in the Causeway Retreat case ?
 
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sarabande said:
ANYONE who makes a threat of that nature while holding a weapon is going to do time. And deserves it.

Are you speaking from direct personal experience, or is this a theoretical event ?


BTW

Is there any link betweent the present owner(s) and any other people who were involved in the Causeway Retreat case ?
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It's all water under the bridge and anyway not relevant to the Osea issue, but the facts were.
Came ashore to play on a small beach when my kids were small.
A strident woman appeared over the sea wall shouting that we were on her private beach, go away now! We don't want YOUR sort of people here. I'm calling the Police.
I suggested that would be the best idea but she didn't.
A bloke then came and stood near her, holding a gun, not threatening, he was just was carrying it, he was probable fully entitled to as part of his occupation.
We didn't leave immediately and she returned frequently to harangue us, while the man sat on the wall staring at us,
Anyway, right or wrong, it's hard to enjoy a day on the beach with people shouting abuse at you.
Perhaps we were doing criminal damage, 8 & 5 year olds can make a lot of sand pies!
 
Good for Nigel.

I seem to recall that the owner of a land is responsible for the clearing up of fly tipping.

Now this begs the question; who owns the Causeway?

Possibly the Crown Estates since it is between the low and high waters. Although I seem to recall that Maldon District Council owns the sea bed from an ancient order/Parlimentary Act.
 
Osea island rubble

Had a walk over the weekend to check out the rubble.
Looks like they had a digger on cauceway moving rubble about.

Also had a email reply from Osea, stating that it was ongoing work that will be finished by end of the month.

They state, the height of the rubble will be no heigher than before ?.

Only walked a few hundred yards alone cauceway ( as it is private property) and there is a hell of a lot of rubble there, which extends well over to the island, some parts at least 3 ft high.

Must admit looks awfull in my opinion.
Think this is well worth keeping an eye on.

Any one wanting more info, please email osea island for official responce.
 
It seems there has been concern that the cars using the causeway at low water are at risk of sliding off of the road into the deep mud either side.

They claim they are only bringing the height back to the condition it was before.

It seems to me that the best option would be for the causeway to have an area at the deepest point where for a distance of say 50 metres the walls will be lower than over the remainder of the wall and a beacon (withy) erected at each end of the gap on both sides so that the boats will know where the crossing point is and cars are not exposed to the risk of sliding off of the road except in a small area.

That way everybody can be happy.
 
There are people who live near an airport and complain about noise or a school who complain about noisy children and parents cars etc. So they bought a house with a muddy causeway and find it a bit slippy. Aaaah. Perhaps they can't afford 4 wheel drive after paying £mm for the island. :rolleyes:
 
Pretty sure they would need MMO approval as well as EA and probably Local Authority. MMO are especially expensive to deal with (they have charged my club £2600 for approval to put in a 20m pontoon into the river). Looks to me like there is plenty of scope for arguement and expensive legal stuff here.
 
Fire99 said:
So just to be clear, this was an organised 'tip' by the owners of Osea Island??
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when you say 'organised', does that mean they had approval from the various agencies involved ? That would surely have needed the appropriate public consultation, with Planning Notices, etc......
 
sarabande said:
when you say 'organised', does that mean they had approval from the various agencies involved ? That would surely have needed the appropriate public consultation, with Planning Notices, etc......
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No, my question was whether the owners of Osea planned the 'drop', not whether the correct legal procedures were followed.

Personally, I think the island should be repossessed, but that's just me. :)
 
I have spoken with a friend involved in planning in E Anglia.

Maldon District Council (Planning and Leisure Depts), the Marine Management Organisation, Environment Agency, and Natural England are co-ordinating efforts to resolve the issue at the earliest opportunity. The statement is that the island owners have bypassed planning regs and procedures, and overstepped the mark.
 
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