Fly bridges in the UK

Having no choice but to steer always and only from a baking, sunlit cabin, reeking of the galley (or of other things) isn't something I'd be willing to pay for; but nor is adopting motorbikers' bravado about 'the right sort of clothing' because the only helm is outside.

So I'd definitely want the option to benefit from an outside helm...it seems the least we can expect. I was interested by the very old Princess 33 when it became available with a tiny flybridge, a change from which it never went back.

Sailing yachtsmen's acceptance of their self-imposed exposure is lazily excused by their need to haul-out anyway in the low season, a period which is extended for as long as the weather is at its least agreeable, rather than the time any maintenance might require. I always felt that boats are costly enough to need to maximise their value - including by being useable all year, in comfort.

One thing I don't understand though, is the flybridge motorboat owners who presumably enjoy their protected inside helm and also the flybridge for fair-weather days...but then, they enclose the flybridge, too...

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...when the sun comes out, do they then perch on top of that, with an autohelm-remote controller in their hands? I suppose the idea is to turn the flybridge into a sort of convertible conservatory.

The non-flybridge, sliding-hardtop designs seem very intelligently considered, if most of the roof is genuinely retractable. Vastly better to let the noonday sun and ventilation into your walled, glazed living-room, than to endure a windy picnic outside.
 
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Having no choice but to steer always and only from a baking, sunlit cabin, reeking of the galley (or of other things) isn't something I'd be willing to pay for; but nor is adopting motorbikers' bravado about 'the right sort of clothing' because the only helm is outside.

So I'd definitely want the option to benefit from an outside helm...it seems the least we can expect. I was interested by the very old Princess 33 when it became available with a tiny flybridge, a change from which it never went back.

Sailing yachtsmen's acceptance of their self-imposed exposure is lazily excused by their need to haul-out anyway in the low season, a period which is extended for as long as the weather is at its least agreeable, rather than the time any maintenance might require. I always felt that boats are costly enough to need to maximise their value - including by being useable all year, in comfort.

One thing I don't understand though, is the flybridge motorboat owners who presumably enjoy their protected inside helm and also the flybridge for fair-weather days...but then, they enclose the flybridge, too...

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...when the sun comes out, do they then perch on top of that, with an autohelm-remote controller in their hands? I suppose the idea is to turn the flybridge into a sort of convertible conservatory.

I can see a couple of boats with the enclosed flybridge treatment from my marina berth . I cant say they look pretty .
However I dare say its easier to keep the upper helm area clean and tidy rather than working under a dark tent. And a further sheltered space is created .

People may do as they wish with their boats - there is no need to be critical of them because it does not fit with your own preferences.
 
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The non-flybridge, sliding-hardtop designs seem very intelligently considered, if most of the roof is genuinely retractable. Vastly better to let the noonday sun and ventilation into your walled, glazed living-room, than to endure a windy picnic outside.

This is exactly why we bought what we did; electing for a solid GRP sunroof instead of the canvas option, for reasons of weathertightness. Having said all that, I do feel that for UK boaters the ability to shut the doors and keep the upper deck saloon cosy is valuable. All flybridges can do that of course, but not all hardtop sports cruisers.
 
Having no choice but to steer always and only from a baking, sunlit cabin, reeking of the galley (or of other things) isn't something I'd be willing to pay for; but nor is adopting motorbikers' bravado about 'the right sort of clothing' because the only helm is outside.

So I'd definitely want the option to benefit from an outside helm...it seems the least we can expect. I was interested by the very old Princess 33 when it became available with a tiny flybridge, a change from which it never went back.

Sailing yachtsmen's acceptance of their self-imposed exposure is lazily excused by their need to haul-out anyway in the low season, a period which is extended for as long as the weather is at its least agreeable, rather than the time any maintenance might require. I always felt that boats are costly enough to need to maximise their value - including by being useable all year, in comfort.

One thing I don't understand though, is the flybridge motorboat owners who presumably enjoy their protected inside helm and also the flybridge for fair-weather days...but then, they enclose the flybridge, too...

50988800151_24ca476b25_c.jpg


...when the sun comes out, do they then perch on top of that, with an autohelm-remote controller in their hands? I suppose the idea is to turn the flybridge into a sort of convertible conservatory.

The non-flybridge, sliding-hardtop designs seem very intelligently considered, if most of the roof is genuinely retractable. Vastly better to let the noonday sun and ventilation into your walled, glazed living-room, than to endure a windy picnic outside.
Actually, I completely disagree with you.
I think that photo is a really good design.
You have missed the point.
A flybridge boat isn't about "driving on the roof" - it is about the extra space.
And the boat in that photo has an extra room over the same boat without that excellent top cover.
I assume that the owner would also have a bimini top for the summer months.
Out in the Med, you won't often find a boat without a bimini top.
Ours is massive and gives the shade that is needed.
 
People may do as they wish with their boats - there is no need to be critical of them because it does not fit with your own preferences.

Of course they may do as they wish - how did you infer criticism from my doubt about the enclosed flybridge? Confusion as to its purpose, I admit to - that's why I was asking. We acquire a boat with indoor and outdoor helm - but we make the outdoor, indoor too.

Actually, I completely disagree with you. A flybridge boat isn't about "driving on the roof".

Surely, it is? The extra height and clear all-round view improves distance-judging; not to mention (as chaps here have) that they are themselves made much more visible, sitting up there, unlike indoors. ?

I don't know where the Bimini question came in - I never doubted the sense in having shade over a flybridge in cloudless places; and hot days are when most of us least want to retreat indoors...

...my doubt was about fully-enclosing a space whose intended appeal was that it is outside. My eventual conclusion (which may have been missed) was that the enclosed flybridge creates extra living space. Though I bet it gets toasty behind that clear plastic.
 
Of course they may do as they wish - how did you infer criticism from my doubt about the enclosed flybridge? Confusion as to its purpose, I admit to - that's why I was asking. We acquire a boat with indoor and outdoor helm - but we make the outdoor, indoor too.



Surely, it is? The extra height and clear all-round view improves distance-judging; not to mention (as chaps here have) that they are themselves made much more visible, sitting up there, unlike indoors. ?

I don't know where the Bimini question came in - I never doubted the sense in having shade over a flybridge in cloudless places; and hot days are when most of us least want to retreat indoors...

...my doubt was about fully-enclosing a space whose intended appeal was that it is outside. My eventual conclusion (which may have been missed) was that the enclosed flybridge creates extra living space. Though I bet it gets toasty behind that clear plastic.
whilst i dont like the enclosed fly it does give added safety if you have small children , and i suppose on good days , you could take the tent down.
 
Of course they may do as they wish - how did you infer criticism from my doubt about the enclosed flybridge? Confusion as to its purpose, I admit to - that's why I was asking. We acquire a boat with indoor and outdoor helm - but we make the outdoor, indoor too.

I dare say the canvas canopy may be removed in part or in whole.
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The only boats that go out on our UK marina are the sports boats and raggies,
The rest are used as floating caravans.
a boat IS a floating caravan??‍♂️?, whether in its home marina, a port of call or at anchor! You could call it a floating island (and you can call a caravan a mobile hotel). But my boat does less than twenty knots, there’s no thrill. Mind you I never even reach the speed limit in my car anymore.
I use my boat to enjoy being ON the water, not carving through it. I do for the scenery, for the moment and for the destination. Also so I have my creature comforts with me at all times (which mainly means a toilet these days) so that is a caravan (or mobile home).
I hope I haven’t breached some sacred code?‍♂️?
 
Surely, it is? The extra height and clear all-round view improves distance-judging; not to mention (as chaps here have) that they are themselves made much more visible, sitting up there, unlike indoors. ?
Have you ever partied on a flybridge boat?
The flybridge is just one of the entertainment areas.
Our galley serves three entertainment areas - the saloon/dinette, the cockpit and (via the internal stairs) the flybridge.
If ever you are out in Sant Carles, you will be welcome to join one of our parties!!
 
There are boats that appear never to leave the marina - of all types.
The motor cruiser opposite mine hasn't moved since 2015 and a yacht just down the way hasn't moved in 10 years.

There are parallels between boats and caravans
But flybridges are not usually found on caravans
 
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