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In a quiet moment in the boat today I started to look at replacing the flexible bits of hose between the regulator and copper pipe and the copper pipe and cooker. The rubber hose seemed to be attached to metal fittings with a kimd of crimp fitting which I don't know.

What is the procedure for replacing this piping? I will get the whole thing checked by a gas fitter before turning it on by the way.
 
Swanrad2 said:
In a quiet moment in the boat today I started to look at replacing the flexible bits of hose between the regulator and copper pipe and the copper pipe and cooker. The rubber hose seemed to be attached to metal fittings with a kimd of crimp fitting which I don't know.

What is the procedure for replacing this piping? I will get the whole thing checked by a gas fitter before turning it on by the way.
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It very much sounds that you need advise as you are in doubt of how the pipes are manufactured. Just IMO
 
David2452 said:
If you are getting a gas safe installer out to verify it anyway, then just get him to do it, the extra cost involved will be minimal.
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My friend is an engineer of massive experience (including many years working on gas installations). He is not gas safe certified, I trust him but try not to drag him out to help me too often, certainly at the moment as I have a particularly tough teleflex issue in my future that I want to save him for.
 
I took my hoses to a gas fitter who has a shop in Glasgow and he made up replacement hoses. I asked if he would fit them and give me a test certificate and he declined saying that the only certificate that he could offer was a landlord certificate and that didn't apply to boats. Just replace and check for leaks using soapy water was his advice. Hoses are marked with manufacturing date and good for 5 years.
 
gm4caq said:
I took my hoses to a gas fitter who has a shop in Glasgow and he made up replacement hoses. I asked if he would fit them and give me a test certificate and he declined saying that the only certificate that he could offer was a landlord certificate and that didn't apply to boats. Just replace and check for leaks using soapy water was his advice. Hoses are marked with manufacturing date and good for 5 years.
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That will work for me - so just undo the metal attachments, clips, hose and all and have duplicates made up?
 
Swanrad2,

I have to say it; it's very easy fitting new flexible gas hose, usually a push on and stainless jubilee clip at each end, though one has to make sure the hose is pushed on all the way; there are not normally any ' attachments ' which would make it unclear.

As gas can be dangerous I suggest you get the professional guy in this time and take careful note of what he does and says; if he's half decent he'll show you it's easy and safe for you to look after in future.
 
I keep reading these DIY gas posts and I just don't get it. What will happen if you boat blows up due to your incompetence? your insurance won't pay out because you are not qualified to fit gas and you may well end up dead!
You need a gas safe registered fitter with LPG and BOATS to do ANY gas work

Put you postcode in here http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/ and get someone properly qualified to do the job.

My Gas Safe Registered number is 554765
 
RogerMayne said:
I keep reading these DIY gas posts and I just don't get it. What will happen if you boat blows up due to your incompetence? your insurance won't pay out because you are not qualified to fit gas and you may well end up dead!
You need a gas safe registered fitter with LPG and BOATS to do ANY gas work

Put you postcode in here http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/ and get someone properly qualified to do the job.

My Gas Safe Registered number is 554765
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where in your ins policy does it state that, please show us
 
RogerMayne said:
I keep reading these DIY gas posts and I just don't get it. What will happen if you boat blows up due to your incompetence? your insurance won't pay out because you are not qualified to fit gas and you may well end up dead!
You need a gas safe registered fitter with LPG and BOATS to do ANY gas work

Put you postcode in here http://www.gassaferegister.co.uk/ and get someone properly qualified to do the job.

My Gas Safe Registered number is 554765
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What you say is factually incorrect. Possibly you are slightly biased. (Gas Safe number):rolleyes:
 
sailorman said:
where in your ins policy does it state that, please show us
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Section 5 – General Conditions
You must comply with the following conditions to have the full protection of Your
Policy. If You do not comply with them We may, at Our option, cancel the Policy or
refuse to handle Your claim or reduce the amount of any claim payment.
5.1 Your duty of care
We will only provide the insurance described in Your Policy if:
5.1.1 To the best of Your knowledge and belief, the information that You
have given is true and complete. If someone else has given the
information for You, that person was acting for You at the time and
You are responsible for the information they gave;
5.1.2 anyone claiming under Your Policy has met all the relevant conditions;
5.1.3 You have taken all reasonable steps to maintain and keep Your
boat and all it’s gear and equipment in a proper state of repair and
seaworthiness; and
5.1.4 You have taken all reasonable steps to protect Your Insured property
from loss or damage.
5.1.5 following the immersion or partial immersion of Your boat’s
Machinery, immediate first aid has been administered.
5.1.6 in the event of a claim under Your Policy You have taken all reasonable
and necessary actions to minimise and prevent further loss or damage

I suggest you call your current insurer, tell them you are planning to do DIY gas work and see what they say.
 
RogerMayne said:
Section 5 – General Conditions
You must comply with the following conditions to have the full protection of Your
Policy. If You do not comply with them We may, at Our option, cancel the Policy or
refuse to handle Your claim or reduce the amount of any claim payment.
5.1 Your duty of care
We will only provide the insurance described in Your Policy if:
5.1.1 To the best of Your knowledge and belief, the information that You
have given is true and complete. If someone else has given the
information for You, that person was acting for You at the time and
You are responsible for the information they gave;
5.1.2 anyone claiming under Your Policy has met all the relevant conditions;
5.1.3 You have taken all reasonable steps to maintain and keep Your
boat and all it’s gear and equipment in a proper state of repair and
seaworthiness; and
5.1.4 You have taken all reasonable steps to protect Your Insured property
from loss or damage.
5.1.5 following the immersion or partial immersion of Your boat’s
Machinery, immediate first aid has been administered.
5.1.6 in the event of a claim under Your Policy You have taken all reasonable
and necessary actions to minimise and prevent further loss or damage

I suggest you call your current insurer, tell them you are planning to do DIY gas work and see what they say.
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Does your Gas Safe qual also cover LPG
 
Our hose from the on/off switch to the cooker was armoured, when I had a gas fitter check the system when we bought the boat there was serious chafe in the rubber hose. I would strongly recommend the hose is armoured.
 
RogerMayne said:
Section 5 – General Conditions
You must comply with the following conditions to have the full protection of Your
Policy. If You do not comply with them We may, at Our option, cancel the Policy or
refuse to handle Your claim or reduce the amount of any claim payment.
5.1 Your duty of care
We will only provide the insurance described in Your Policy if:
5.1.1 To the best of Your knowledge and belief, the information that You
have given is true and complete. If someone else has given the
information for You, that person was acting for You at the time and
You are responsible for the information they gave;
5.1.2 anyone claiming under Your Policy has met all the relevant conditions;
5.1.3 You have taken all reasonable steps to maintain and keep Your
boat and all it’s gear and equipment in a proper state of repair and
seaworthiness; and
5.1.4 You have taken all reasonable steps to protect Your Insured property
from loss or damage.
5.1.5 following the immersion or partial immersion of Your boat’s
Machinery, immediate first aid has been administered.
5.1.6 in the event of a claim under Your Policy You have taken all reasonable
and necessary actions to minimise and prevent further loss or damage

I suggest you call your current insurer, tell them you are planning to do DIY gas work and see what they say.
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But it does not say you have to use a professional for anything, just that you have taken reasonable care. If they wanted a specific condition then they would frame a clause saying you need to have a current safety certificate. This may well happen as the result of asurveyor recommendation, but is not a continuing condition.
 
KellysEye said:
Our hose from the on/off switch to the cooker was armoured, when I had a gas fitter check the system when we bought the boat there was serious chafe in the rubber hose. I would strongly recommend the hose is armoured.
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There are arguments both ways about this. With an armoured hose, any damage or deterioration of the rubber is hidden.
 
Swanrad2 said:
That will work for me - so just undo the metal attachments, clips, hose and all and have duplicates made up?
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See post #2 You will find details of standard made up hose on the Southern Calor website if you want to do it yourself. If you get a professional in he will probably condemn the whole system as the original set up does not comply with latest best practice. You will also find information on the latest recommendations on the website.
 
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