Flat White Paint,,,,,,,

Here\'s where I\'d start...

Don't immediately dismiss this as crazy, but had you considered looking at the <A target="_blank" HREF=http://www.farrow-ball.com>Farrow & Ball</A> range? It's traditional, top quality paint, frequently mentioned in all the glossy homes magazines.

They do a Dead Flat Oil paint (which is exactly what it says) and an Oil Eggshell (which has a very slight sheen). Both paints are low odour. I've used the Oil Eggshell on woodwork in my cottage, and it's good stuff. Best of all, they have a superb range of whites and creams, many of which would look lovely in "Patience". Worth asking them for a colour chart. Incidentally, if you order paint online, they do free UK delivery.

But I don't know how Heybridge residents would react to "designer paint"!!
 
Hi
I did make a reply to an earlier posting about paint the heads! You could try McPhearsons Trade Paints they do an excellent oil based eggshell low’ish odour I have used it for over 25 years internal and external in the shopfitting industry cheaper than Dulux excellent coverage. To get a great finish use a mini foam roller, then if required feather lightly with a brush. Good Luck

Wishbone
www.reflect-designs.co.uk
 
Re: Farrow and Ball

You could try the local car paint suppliers. A lot of them will do coach enamel in flat colours and also an addative called a Flatting agent to take away the shiny finish from gloss paints. I've used it in Japlac to take away the glare of the finish, worked quiet well.
 
Ian - A very long time ago I painted yachts professionally, paint formulae have changed in the meantime but not , it would appear, the principals.Flat paints, whether undercoat or top coat ( known as "top flatting" in the trade) are not frost proof, which is I think why F + B say their paint is for interior use only. We used to have requests for a flat finish and the nearest we would offer would be 1/2 and 1/2 which is an undercoat / gloss mix. There was a theory that if you mixed u/c and gloss from 2 different makes you got a harder finish.
I am referring back to the days when at least 12 coats were applied to a wooden boat after a complete burn off so maybe my information is a bit out of date !!!
I would be interested to know how long your finish lasts.
Stephen H
 
Stephen,
Thanks, I hadn't thought about frost.
Let's start again,,,,,,,
Patience is 13 years old, plank on frame with a traditional yacht paint finish . Three coats pink primer, then fill sand and under coat three times, 50/50 undercoat/ top coat twice, then two top coats. That was when she was new. Since then Every Year a good sanding undercoat, fill, sand, twice then two topcoats. More if the weather or insects have been less than kind,,,,,,,
I have noticed that the hull looks smoothest and fairest at the final undercoat stage and the topcoat is always a pain.
So, I thought, traditional boats often had a flat finish, why shouldn’t I?
the top coat only needs to last one season so why not have it flat?
Any other advice?


IanW


Vertue 203, Patience
 
Some types of paint finish will lose their gloss if wiped over with acetone.....also have heared that Crown will supply a 'matt' gloss paint ......contact their tech people who will no doubt help.....
 
Ian

I remembered your post when looking through an international leaflet and came across the Matting Additive that Philmarks had refered to.
If added in a 1:1 mix with Toplac it gives the gloss of a satin varnish. It is specifically for giving a flat-mat finish and is for interior and exterior use.
I realise that the 'Marine' label adds %%% on to the price but the paint cost is only a small part of the job.

Any use?

Iain
 
You could well use the Eggshell made by Hempel's if that is available in your area. Locally it is made in white, cream and black. As far as suitability for outside use, perhaps this is significant: I could not find any non-slip deck paint in the colour that I wanted and so I mixed my own by blending Hempel Eggshell white with about 5% black, adding a 125gramme container of anti slide additive (extremely fine sand) marketed by Boero. Non-slip decks at the right shade of grey for a fraction of the normal price. This paint has now been on my deck for three years and does not show any signs of flaking.
As someone else has said, apply it with a little foam roller; used carefully there should be no need for striking with a brush.
Fair Winds!

Wally
 
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