Flag halyard cleats on shrouds

[Spirit (of Glenans)]

Why I don't wear a ring when working or sailing. Many people do. Lots of points on boats where a ring can catch and cause injuries like this. Shroud cleats would just be another hazard. I stick to half hitches and keep it simple.



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Brings me back to my initial First Aid course when the instructor showed many gory graphics and was obsessed with "degloving"!

 

[geem]

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Depends if you have learned how to coil lines. After all, if you cannot there would be problems up for'ard. Especially if they came loose in a couple of big waves & washed over the side. Much safer to have them where they can be tended --in the cockpit.?
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Even with all all your snakes nicely coiled it's still a snake pit?

 

[srm]

Would that include Ireland (the southern bit)?

Of course, especially if you are flying the red duster.
After hearing the experience of a friend who was woken in his bunk and found himself looking up the barrel of a semi-automatic weapon with a black balaclava behind it, as a bunch of paramilitaries hijacked his coaster, I wouldn't take any chances on that coast.

 

[greeny]

So you removed that nasty hot oven? And the kettle full of scalding water? And the knives? People sometimes get ropes around their neck too, and fall in the water, and and and...let's just all stay in bed where it's safe eh?

Come on Lusty. There's enough real arguments in the world than we need. Stop trying to pick one on the forum. You are intelligent enough to know where I'm coming from, I'm sure. I stated my view and defended it. I'm not going into a prolonged argument about it now. Let's move on.

 

[MJWB]

This may be one of those questions that, merely by asking it, puts the questioner at risk of incurring penalty points but might it be because there is no longer a current affairs forum in which we can vent our spleen? ?

Well, I asked the question as here on this forum I've always received helpful views which add value to a consideration of the question. Different perspectives are helpful. I've come away with a few useful thoughts on the subject. Can't see any point folks getting in a flap (pardon the pun) about somebody holding an opposite view. Life is too short, boat needs to be got ready and sailing is to be done.

 

[graham]

I didnt like thd idea of potentially creating a weak point on the shrouds ,

probably overthinking it but removed them from our boat.

 

[lustyd]

I didnt like thd idea of potentially creating a weak point on the shrouds ,

probably overthinking it but removed them from our boat.

If your shrouds are weak enough that a plastic cleat causes an issue you have bigger problems. The plastic doesn't even compress the wire btw, perfectly safe the only risk is corrosion which is unlikely.

 

[graham]

If your shrouds are weak enough that a plastic cleat causes an issue you have bigger problems. The plastic doesn't even compress the wire btw, perfectly safe the only risk is corrosion which is unlikely.

Probably right and its a 2 minute job to change the position slightly now and then ,I may stick them back on as the flag halyards are a slight nuisance where they are made off at the moment.

 

[lustyd]

Trial and error is the best way. At one point I thought mine were set up perfectly and then I went to bed and the clanging and banging started as a flag hit a shroud

 

[graham]

Trial and error is the best way. At one point I thought mine were set up perfectly and then I went to bed and the clanging and banging started as a flag hit a shroud

Nothing ever makes a noise on a boat until after your head hits the pillow !