RAI
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Looks like it can be motored from inside but all the winches are outside along with the wheel helm. To me, a good motor sailor can be sailed from within the pilot house. As with the Coronet Elvstrom 38, for example.
Fisher,Bravaria crossover
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BrianH
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After a lifetime of focussing on performance in my boats at the age of 70 the light dawned and I bought one of these (HR94) although with the raked forward windscreen, which is not quite so pretty but more practicable. She sails remarkably well and I can steer with the wheel within the doghouse or the tiller aft of the cockpit. I sail in winds down to 5 knots and cover most distances under sail when cruising.Try again... Hallberg Rassy made the 94 Kutter....
All the talk about only suitable for northern climes is just not true. In the Adriatic where I sail it is essential to be protected from the sun and the lid does that and I can keep the top of the canvas cockpit extension fitted for complete coverage. I have fitted a 100W solar panel on one half of the roof, leaving the other side if I need to access there. I am very satisfied and only wonder why it took me so long to realise what would really suit my sailing life after giving up racing and turning to pure cruising.
While doing so this summer I was alerted by AIS of a close approaching CPA with a UK MMSI - a rare target in my area. We passed on reciprocal courses and I was gratified to note another motor-sailor (Fisher 34 ??) comfortably jogging along in the relatively light wind at the time (below).
Sybarite
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Wansworth
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As always the French have a certain way of solving problems....... looks interesting apart from all that tubular stuff.
Baggywrinkle
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My dad has a Finnsailer 35 and loves it .....
More pics here ..... http://sailport.dk/id/finnsailer-35/
More pics here ..... http://sailport.dk/id/finnsailer-35/
E39mad
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After a lifetime of focussing on performance in my boats at the age of 70 the light dawned and I bought one of these (HR94) although with the raked forward windscreen, which is not quite so pretty but more practicable. She sails remarkably well and I can steer with the wheel within the doghouse or the tiller aft of the cockpit. I sail in winds down to 5 knots and cover most distances under sail when cruising.
All the talk about only suitable for northern climes is just not true. In the Adriatic where I sail it is essential to be protected from the sun and the lid does that and I can keep the top of the canvas cockpit extension fitted for complete coverage. I have fitted a 100W solar panel on one half of the roof, leaving the other side if I need to access there. I am very satisfied and only wonder why it took me so long to realise what would really suit my sailing life after giving up racing and turning to pure cruising.
While doing so this summer I was alerted by AIS of a close approaching CPA with a UK MMSI - a rare target in my area. We passed on reciprocal courses and I was gratified to note another motor-sailor (Fisher 34 ??) comfortably jogging along in the relatively light wind at the time (below).
That's a 37 Barnacle as it has an aft cabin and no cockpit - early one too as the later 37s have a bowsprit and taller rig obviously with more sail area. They sail better than people realise
pvb
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I thought the Moody 45DS rather fitted the OP's desire for an AWB-style boat with a "proper wheelhouse". This little video is intriguing...
BrianH
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Thanks for that, I had wondered.
When my wife and I toured a Nauticat 331 at the Düsseldorf Boot this year I was most impressed and said so. However, she responded that there was not enough deck space aft to spread out, or lie, when using the cockpit steering position, unlike our HR94 with its copious cockpit half covered by the doghouse. That seems to be general with a genuine deck saloon that leaves little room aft.
That can be seen in my photo; one, probably skipper and helmsman is perched up on the pushpit while the crew lies on deck at the mainmast - all very good if you absolutely want the UV but not to be recommended in our searing Adriatic sunshine. I'm guessing that the deckhouse has a very uncomfortable temperature, which wasn't the case with my open-ended doghouse with open windscreen.
Wansworth
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From rough sketches ,putting a Fisher style wheelhouse with doors each side opening on to the main deck would reduce the available interior space which would definitely be a problem, but say on a 40 footer there would be room for proper engine room a double berth cabin and two sea berths and a toilet etc, On deck there would be space aft for a wheel or tiller steering with access to an aft cabin, It would mean having bulwarks and raised cabin sides.
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E39mad
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Yes not many aft cabin F37's built - most have a decent cockpit despite the canoe stern. Once the later boats had quarter cabins the aft cabin which reduced wheelhouse seating due to access needed was redundant.
I am another who prefers the pilot house access from the cockpit and not the side decks. Vancouver 34 and 38 Pilots have a decent cockpit also although unlike the Fisher this is also their primary steering position.
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Sybarite
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http://www.vilm-yacht.de/fileadmin/user_upload/Vilm_117/VILM_117_Prospekt_2011_de.pdf
Great cruising layout IMHO.
A bit slow loading.
Great cruising layout IMHO.
A bit slow loading.
joha
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Have a Trident Voyager 35. Same hull as the Warrior and Challenger, sails well from a close reach to a run. You can see out of the windows and can steer from inside too. Hydraulic wheel steering downstairs and cable in the cockpit. Good sea boat as well. Good lay out below and plenty of stowage space, but no double aft cabins though 
But the good thing about that is steering gear, rudder head etc has great access without dismantling the boat!. All tanks and engine are pretty much amidships so weight distribution is good. This one was built earl 90's and I think they stopped building in 2003, though have been told they will still build to order! But probably too expensive to build today!
They are/were built well and don't suffer from the dreaded pox.
I like her and you cant beat sailing her from below with the heating on when its cold and wet outside!
John
But the good thing about that is steering gear, rudder head etc has great access without dismantling the boat!. All tanks and engine are pretty much amidships so weight distribution is good. This one was built earl 90's and I think they stopped building in 2003, though have been told they will still build to order! But probably too expensive to build today!They are/were built well and don't suffer from the dreaded pox.
I like her and you cant beat sailing her from below with the heating on when its cold and wet outside!
John
Hial
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I also have a Finnsailer 35 and find it an excellent compromise between motoring and sailing. It is ideal for where I live up in Orkney.