Fisher 34 - Rapid, relative to its relatives?

Seastream 34

Marcon Claymore? But you won't get a new one... Big sister is the Moody Halberdier - open your horizons, there are lots of sleeker hulls out the there. anyone got anything to say about the Seastream 34?

An Ian Anderson design. Sails very well, handles the weather, big cockpit, twin helm position, good layout below and less chunky than Fisher. The perfect West Coast vessel IMHO.
 
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Here is a Fisher 34 test report; looks just a bit exaggerated, and I had yet no possibility to test mine in such conditions
http://www.classicboat.co.uk/articles/the-fisher-boat-test/

Extract:

We tore off down Chichester Harbour, past Bosham Channel and towards West Wittering. The Arun sails set beautifully and the 34 simply screamed along.

It was at this point I became surprised. I really hadn’t expected, given her overall design concept, that the 34 would be particularly close-winded. However, as we hardened on the wind she could be pinched up to an impressive 40 degrees apparent to make a respectable 6.2 knots.

The leeway was, understandably, a little excessive on this point of sail and so I eased off to 50 degrees. Leeway dropped to an acceptable level and she picked up to 7 knots. She was responsive, light and balanced on the helm, tacking easily through 85 degrees or so. Coming off the wind, she reached happily at around 71⁄2 knots.


A typical performance from a good motor sailer, pretty poor in light winds, pretty poor less than 45 degrees, great fun to sail the rest of the time :)
 
Extract:

We tore off down Chichester Harbour, past Bosham Channel and towards West Wittering. The Arun sails set beautifully and the 34 simply screamed along.

It was at this point I became surprised. I really hadn’t expected, given her overall design concept, that the 34 would be particularly close-winded. However, as we hardened on the wind she could be pinched up to an impressive 40 degrees apparent to make a respectable 6.2 knots.

The leeway was, understandably, a little excessive on this point of sail and so I eased off to 50 degrees. Leeway dropped to an acceptable level and she picked up to 7 knots. She was responsive, light and balanced on the helm, tacking easily through 85 degrees or so. Coming off the wind, she reached happily at around 71⁄2 knots.


A typical performance from a good motor sailer, pretty poor in light winds, pretty poor less than 45 degrees, great fun to sail the rest of the time :)
But what about 6.5 knots with 2000 revs? The 75 hp Yanmar 4JH4-TE should consume 4 l/h in this regime; looks unbelievable to push 12 ton of boat with Fr 1.2 on only 4 l/h, ha?
 
I know, it's the same with our Thornycroft 230 - it's why they're called motor sailers, they can do both really well but neither brilliantly.
 
For reference here is some info about the Fisher 34 :

Fisher34.jpg


And for comparison, here is a page from my Colvic Watson catalogue about the Kipper's 34'6" version :

ColvicWatson34.jpg
 
Not stating you are wrong but how does it sail better than the F34?

Several factors, the waterline is a bit longer; the sail area is 12% greater; Sailing Today says so; anecdote; and the reputation of GL Watson for superior sailing boats - but we all think ours are best :)
 
I have no say, but here is a note I had from mchartres; you can see his CW 34.5 here, on youtube:
http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=jMtjpADGz7k&feature=plcp

"Hello. Congratulations on your Fisher. They are better sailers than the Colvic Watsons at the expense of a little room inside, I had many wonderful voyages in Norsela and I trust you will make the most of your boat.
I don't know where you are or where you have your boat but if you can, visit the Baltic. Fantastic sailing thro' the islands up to Stockholm and beyond.
Happy sailing and regards Michael Chrtares

Sent to: olddog57"

Also, Mike Newby (Archivist for the Colvic Watson Owners Group, and he REALLY IS) claims in his research about CW range the CW 34.5 sailing area is 500 sq ft, and this footage divided between main and mizzen..)
 
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