gavin400
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Cost of new Fisher 25 is over £180,000 - guess the second hand ones are pretty good value then?
Fisher 25 £180,000!
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E39mad
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Guess Northshore don't want to build them anymore. Having stated that they are labour and material intensive to build with no internal mouldings.
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Zagato
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Ouch! Shows the labour involved and size of the beast! A smaller Cornish Crabber 26 is 90K and a Drascombe Drifter 22 about 35K Each smaller than the other with different levels/methods of fit out! Length doesn't have that much to do with it. OK Tranona I understand now!!!
photodog
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One thing I am amazed by is WIth new boat prices so high, Why have prices for used decent equivilant boats not been inflated?
Fo instanice...
New bene 31 circa 90k on the water now.
My 1999 Bavaria 31 circa 40k now.
New Bene 31 circa 60k in 2005
My 1999 bavaria 31 circa 40k in 2006.
And whilst I may be comparing apples and oranges... I do note that very good modernist used yachts seem to be falling in price.... So a couple of years ago a good used 2002 Bavaria 36 was fetching circa 65k.... Versus no you are probably talking 55k....
Things like rival 36's are way down on a few years ago...
There is some remarkable value in the used market.... But the new prices seem to hve skyrocketed in the past couple of years...
Southerly 32 is now circa 190k!
So with the big drive up on new... I don't understand why used prices haven't been more bouyant.
Fo instanice...
New bene 31 circa 90k on the water now.
My 1999 Bavaria 31 circa 40k now.
New Bene 31 circa 60k in 2005
My 1999 bavaria 31 circa 40k in 2006.
And whilst I may be comparing apples and oranges... I do note that very good modernist used yachts seem to be falling in price.... So a couple of years ago a good used 2002 Bavaria 36 was fetching circa 65k.... Versus no you are probably talking 55k....
Things like rival 36's are way down on a few years ago...
There is some remarkable value in the used market.... But the new prices seem to hve skyrocketed in the past couple of years...
Southerly 32 is now circa 190k!
So with the big drive up on new... I don't understand why used prices haven't been more bouyant.
Sybarite
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I take the opposite view. How do they hope to sell boats at that price when there are so many good second hand boats at a fraction of the price?
Tranona
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The simple answer is they don't!
Cost inflation, driven by higher commodity prices, higher energy costs and lower level of activity is greater than general inflation, and for the UK a fall in the value of our currency in relation to the currency of the main suppliers.
My boat cost new £80k in 2001 (£105k now based on RPI). Similar boat to similar spec now £125k.
Otter
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My Colvic Watson Veracity35 cost £60k in 1977 - about £230k in todays terms. But in 1977 very few yachts were that big, now it's a starter boat length. Price now about £55k but a fraction of the 'new' cost.
channel
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Why not try a Fisher 28 - http://www.fisherboatcompany.com/fisher28.html
dylanwinter
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always liked the idea of a Fisher
they look as though they could handle anything, anywhere, anyplace
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they look as though they could handle anything, anywhere, anyplace
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Seajet
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With the exception of head wind and seas for the sake of your teeth fillings, and a beam sea for the sake of your stomach !
E39mad
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Here we go again ..... putting something down without even experiencing it FIRST hand.
Incidentally the person in the cockpit on the white F25 sloop from the website quoted above is me almost 20 years ago. I can tell you that these boats can sail an awful lot better than people give them credit for (esp the sloop) and I have raced all sorts of yachts successfully over the years so know how to sail, what fast is and how get the best out a sailboat! No they are not the closest to the wind (but not bad) but they are a "little ship" and feel like a much much bigger boat. Plenty of ocean crossings even in F25's.
Incidentally the person in the cockpit on the white F25 sloop from the website quoted above is me almost 20 years ago. I can tell you that these boats can sail an awful lot better than people give them credit for (esp the sloop) and I have raced all sorts of yachts successfully over the years so know how to sail, what fast is and how get the best out a sailboat! No they are not the closest to the wind (but not bad) but they are a "little ship" and feel like a much much bigger boat. Plenty of ocean crossings even in F25's.
With the exception of head wind and seas for the sake of your teeth fillings, and a beam sea for the sake of your stomach !
gavin400
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That looks fantastic.
Not sure about the teak deck - don't think it would look right on a Fisher?
Interesting if they can do it for approx. £100,000 when Northshore were £180,000 for the 25
jac
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Well it's not an A22 so obviously it will be rubbish.
Elessar
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Yeah me too - in a way.
major generalisation alert!
I always think of fisher owners as particularly competent.
When I started sailing "big" boats - a mirage 28 - my pal and I always made a meal of the controlled crash that was berthing. The very old guy on the fisher 25 alongside used to come in at any state of the tide - darthaven so sometimes tricky on the ebb - and stop the thing perfectly, step off ever so slowly - he could barely walk - and sedately tie it up. Never any drama. His wife just watched. I always aspired to be as good as him.
I've not tried to shatter this illusion, but no one has done so for me. I've met some interesting owners of them over the years too, including one disabled chap who took (I think) the mizzen off to make it accessible to him.
£180k is a lot of dosh though for a 25fter.
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E39mad
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King Penguin
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I agree, they also used to do a version with no coach roof and was all deck and if my memory serves me correctly the Fisher 25 was based on the hull of the Freeward 25, which had a much sleeker coach roof. They sometimes come up for sale and they're a lot cheaper than S/H Fishers!
Mind you, although they sail quite well I don't think they sail as well as a small & light lifting keel fractionally rigged sloop, er, such as er......an Anderson 22!
E39mad
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The flush deck model is known as the Potter.
Has a fwd cabin accessed from the flush deck. Some just had a mizzen steadying sail, whilst others were fully rigged.
Has a fwd cabin accessed from the flush deck. Some just had a mizzen steadying sail, whilst others were fully rigged.
alant
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Mate has an old Freeward 25 & has done quite well in last 2years RTIR.
Lakesailor
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No. You don't get 5 Ks of coke in the secondhand ones.
Seajet
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jac,
you're learning then !
I was basing my comments on Fishers on various accounts I have read over the years, and common sea sense would back them up...
