ChrisE
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In moderation ....
I saw a charter skipper pour a cup full of water from his flask over a sting that he got on the knuckles and it stopped the spread of the toxin.
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In moderation ....
I saw a charter skipper pour a cup full of water from his flask over a sting that he got on the knuckles and it stopped the spread of the toxin.
OldBawley
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Ask the next to you mooring Turkish fisherman for a joint.
They smoke them to stay relaxed going out to sea in their small boats.
One of those poor fishermen always wanted to trade fish for a can of beer. He explained buying beer was “No good Allah “ but without drinking he was to afraid to go out. I would have been afraid in those boats. The Turkish coast can be very treacherous in winter.
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Two men ware living and fishing in that boat for a week. Sleeping under the plastic, fish in a derelict fridge filled with ice ( Under the blanket ) After a week they doink to town to sell the fish.
Line fishing. Laying 3 to 4 miles of baited line in the evening, sleeping in a bay, hauling in the morning, baiting the line(s) in daytime.
Hard work but no boss, cowboys. Often no experience at all, they lend the boat and go fishing.
Some pro´s as well, same life but they now what they are doing.
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My experience with fishing in Turkish/Dodecanese waters is that in 10yrs and c. 4000 miles of mixed motoring/sailing with lure deployed most of the time my tally was three small (1- 1,5 KG) horse mackerel, one Dorado and one billfish of a similar size. watching the local fishermen laying their nets every night and recovering them all but totally empty tells me that that part of the Med is all but devoid of useful fish. You'd do better with a catapult hunting rabbits ashore. Really.
The size of nets used by the locals is the clue - whitebait traps. There will never be a healthy fishery there unless steps are taken to allow tiny fish to grow into larger fish. The problem is vast levels of overfishing of immature fish in their nursery areas.
The size of nets used by the locals is the clue - whitebait traps. There will never be a healthy fishery there unless steps are taken to allow tiny fish to grow into larger fish. The problem is vast levels of overfishing of immature fish in their nursery areas.
OldBawley
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Apart from some domestic rabbits on Yassica adelary in the Fethiye gulf and a hare on Astypalaya
I have never seen rabbits or there burrows in Greece and coastal Turkey.
The hunters here go for small birds.
Overfishing.
Turks of the South coast did not eat Octopus, so there ware a lot of them.
Common thought was that fish without scales is not good. Not in the Koran, just general belief.
Up came tourism, the bay restaurants heard tourists ask for grilled octopus.
Unemployed Turks started hunting the eight legged creatures in an almost industrial way.
Two wetsuits, one over the other, towing a dingy, lying up to 8 h / day in the water. When he was tiered, the speargunning guys with lamps came. One guy I spoke had shot 40 kilo that day. The equivalent of a workers month wage.
In two years the whole octopus population in the Fethiye Göcek bays was gone.
Restaurants had to prepare frozen imported fish just as in Greece.
Good for us, octopuses breed faster when scarce.
I have never seen rabbits or there burrows in Greece and coastal Turkey.
The hunters here go for small birds.
Overfishing.
Turks of the South coast did not eat Octopus, so there ware a lot of them.
Common thought was that fish without scales is not good. Not in the Koran, just general belief.
Up came tourism, the bay restaurants heard tourists ask for grilled octopus.
Unemployed Turks started hunting the eight legged creatures in an almost industrial way.
Two wetsuits, one over the other, towing a dingy, lying up to 8 h / day in the water. When he was tiered, the speargunning guys with lamps came. One guy I spoke had shot 40 kilo that day. The equivalent of a workers month wage.
In two years the whole octopus population in the Fethiye Göcek bays was gone.
Restaurants had to prepare frozen imported fish just as in Greece.
Good for us, octopuses breed faster when scarce.
Chalker
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Old Fishing Proverb
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day
Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in his boat all day and drink beer
Give a man a fish and he'll eat for a day
Teach a man to fish and he'll sit in his boat all day and drink beer
BrianH
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I haven't eaten octopus for years, although I'll happily order squid in any of its culinary forms, especially the small, whole ones grilled on an open fire. The octopus has been found to be a highly intelligent animal and I once saw a film of the Jacques Cousteau team conducting behavioural tests on one in its Mediterranean habitat, which consisted of long-term observation and included some feeding sessions. There clearly emerged some sort of bonding between diver and animal until a scene that always remains with me, of the octopus greeting the arrival of the diver and to all appearances embracing him with one tentacle, looking like two buddies sitting on the sea bed. Since then I just can't see those plates of chopped tentacles in a restaurant.
OldBawley
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A French friend of mine is very keen octopus catcher. In winter, the fridge is switched off, no need for it and save electricity, so this man keeps the octopuses alive in a big plastic olive container hanging under his yacht.
Holes in it, feeding rests and guts of fish. Those containers have a screw on lid. One has to turn the lid two to three times to open. Octopuses learn in days to open the lid so he had to secure the lid with a rope.
In Fethiye, the growth of mussels is enormous. Cold water ( melting water from the mountains ) and lots of food in the water. ( **** from 50.000 inhabitants )
In the Göcek bays, no mussels. Just 10 miles away, but warm water and no food. Rocks and sand.
A few times I collected about 80 kilo´s of mussels from the Fethiye bay and brought them to Kapi bay. Dingy fully loaded. In Kapi bay I put the mussels in nets and suspended those on rocks underwater. That way the mussels could clean themselves and we hoped to introduce them in the bay.
Apart from Fethiye one has to sail North up to Chesme before finding Mussels.
No way we could cultivate the delicacy. Octopuses found them.
That´s when I learned to hunt them to.
Holes in it, feeding rests and guts of fish. Those containers have a screw on lid. One has to turn the lid two to three times to open. Octopuses learn in days to open the lid so he had to secure the lid with a rope.
In Fethiye, the growth of mussels is enormous. Cold water ( melting water from the mountains ) and lots of food in the water. ( **** from 50.000 inhabitants )
In the Göcek bays, no mussels. Just 10 miles away, but warm water and no food. Rocks and sand.
A few times I collected about 80 kilo´s of mussels from the Fethiye bay and brought them to Kapi bay. Dingy fully loaded. In Kapi bay I put the mussels in nets and suspended those on rocks underwater. That way the mussels could clean themselves and we hoped to introduce them in the bay.
Apart from Fethiye one has to sail North up to Chesme before finding Mussels.
No way we could cultivate the delicacy. Octopuses found them.
That´s when I learned to hunt them to.