Fire at East Cowes Marina

SpottyDog5 said:
You are absolutely correct, but what I don't understand is why peeps seem to revel in others misfortune, compassion cost nothing.
Click to expand...

+1
I really do not get the aspect of speculation in this thread regarding how the owner may or may not feel & whether the situation constitutes emotional loss.
There have been some fantastic, informative posts regarding the fire, the safety of others boats and the ongoing salvage situation but some people seem to have jumped in and twisted the thread into somewhat of a soap opera...shame but I guess that's human nature.
If it had been my boat going up in flames I think that some of the posts made would have been potentially upsetting, regardless as to whether it was on brokerage or made out of GRP.
Maybe its me....
 
SpottyDog5 said:
You are absolutely correct, but what I don't understand is why peeps seem to revel in others misfortune, compassion cost nothing.
Click to expand...

It's all a bit odd: there does seem to be a group of people on here who get a bit aroused by this kind of thing (denied entry into the Fire Brigade?) and then are quite vocal on insisting that they know how the owner feels about it all?

The technical aspects of the salvage are much more interesting :)
 
Hang on, some people speculated that the owner may be gutted about the loss of his pride and joy, others that he may secretly be quite pleased that he's saved the hassle of having to sell the boat, and maybe will get a better payout. As far as I could see, nobody "revelled in someone else's misfortune", they just pointed out that not everyone is emotionally attached to their material possessions, because they are ultimately replaceable.
 
Nick_H said:
Hang on, some people speculated that the owner may be gutted about the loss of his pride and joy, others that he may secretly be quite pleased that he's saved the hassle of having to sell the boat, and maybe will get a better payout. As far as I could see, nobody "revelled in someone else's misfortune", they just pointed out that not everyone is emotionally attached to their material possessions, because they are ultimately replaceable.
Click to expand...

That's right Nick, but there were several uncalled for, even insulting, remarks made on other threads (and this one), which, if I were the owner of Kahu I would have taken exception to.
 
Nick_H said:
Hang on, some people speculated that the owner may be gutted about the loss of his pride and joy, others that he may secretly be quite pleased that he's saved the hassle of having to sell the boat, and maybe will get a better payout. As far as I could see, nobody "revelled in someone else's misfortune", they just pointed out that not everyone is emotionally attached to their material possessions, because they are ultimately replaceable.
Click to expand...

No, you either have to be a Frustrated Fireman or a Weeping Boat Widower: we can't have people being reasonable, can we :p

.
 
Last edited:
petem said:
Oh yes bring it on! But I've probably missed the boat on this one.

To be honest though Gary, when you see the poor souls in the Philipines on the tv who have lost everything it does put boating mishaps like this into perspective.

Cheers, Pete
Click to expand...

Not too late at all Pete, the thread got hijacked by posters shouting troll because they didnt agree
and know on this forum its the way out of an argument they are loosing.
Its happened before and it will happen again no doubt but its wrong and causes damage to the forum.
You are right to bring this back into the spotlight.
Nigelpickin said:
+1
I really do not get the aspect of speculation in this thread regarding how the owner may or may not feel & whether
the situation constitutes emotional loss.
There have been some fantastic, informative posts regarding the fire, the safety of others boats and the ongoing salvage
situation but some people seem to have jumped in and twisted the thread into somewhat of a soap opera...shame but I guess that's human nature.
If it had been my boat going up in flames I think that some of the posts made would have been potentially upsetting,
regardless as to whether it was on brokerage or made out of GRP.
Maybe its me....
Click to expand...

Your post is very well written and polite.
It has been received well by some others too.
I don't agree with all of it but that doesn't stop me understanding it and understanding how you feel.

In summary , I think parts of it are wrong but perfectly acceptable.

What is totally unacceptable are the few posters who ganged up and twisted the thread into a nasty troll hunt ,
on a relatively newbie too.

They demand compassion to a company / person they knew but failed to spot that they themselves were showing zero compassion to a newbie
or anyone who dared to think the newbie has a point .

In my opinion a few were deliberately rude ,
they should read your post and learn how to be compassionate while remaining well mannered ,
they are the ones who I believe directed the thread off course and caused damage to the forum.

I asked the moderators (and ranters) to edit the rudeness out but they chose to leave it in which I found somewhat surprising.

I post in the hope that the posters can now understand and tolerate everyones ideas even if they dont agree with them ,
several well respected posters have now added their understanding to the sentimental aspect ,
perhaps certain posts were poorly written for the esteemed ( :rolleyes: ) audience but they didnt deserve the mass attack they received,

Petem has given you another opportunity , its not too late to modify your posts or apologise as at least one forum member has already partially done; thank you . :)

Seeing as I suggested this several days ago and it has fallen on deaf ears we may as well have a thorough debate now ........


I would like to ask why on first sight the actual ownership appears a little hazy on this thread.............

Is this a Privately owned boat with VAT paid and duty paid on propulsion fuel

or

Is it owned by a company who didn't pay (or paid but later recovered the 20% VAT) as it was bought as a charter business .


It may help dry those tears running down our cheeks to know if there is a traumatised family
or an MD who has just balanced the company accounts.
 
+1 daka.
Far more eloquently put than I could manage.
Maybe everyone's grumpy cos winters here.
Last year we lost tantalus,a dunkirk little ship,that was v.sad,but there was nothing on here compared to this.
I'm gutted for the owner/owners but c'mon guys,it's a boat.
 
It made the press over here in NZ:

"A $6.8 million superyacht owned by a New Zealand businessman has sunk after catching fire in England....
An estimated 2000kg (2 tonnes) was saved; principally by constructing the top of the boat out of carbon fibre."

Would have cost moonbeams to construct all that superstructure out of carbon and 2t saved above the waterline. Nice.
 
Last edited:
You must log in or register to reply here.

Share this page

Top