Fined for antifoul removal?

[fisherman]

Do we believe this? £3k fine for pressure washing antifoul in Mylor and not picking up. Unreliable source.....

 

[chris-s]

Source?

 

[RichardS]

Source?

Unreliable.

Richard

 

[[70521]]

Who did the pressure wash?

 

[Rappey]

Some years back there was talk about boats being sprayed off in filtered catchment areas only to prevent the contamination going back into the sea. I was led to believe it was going to happen as new yards had to install the equipment, but then it sort of fizzled out.
I presumed they removed the last of anything effective in antifouling therefore it wasn't such a drama if any washed back into the sea?
A fine ? Would be interesting to hear a full story as it could be slightly possible ?

 

[Poignard]

Some years back there was talk about boats being sprayed off in filtered catchment areas only to prevent the contamination going back into the sea. I was led to believe it was going to happen as new yards had to install the equipment, but then it sort of fizzled out.
I presumed they removed the last of anything effective in antifouling therefore it wasn't such a drama if any washed back into the sea?
A fine ? Would be interesting to hear a full story as it could be slightly possible ?

This is the arrangement used in yards on the River Vilaine, Brittany. I don't know what becomes of the filtered off residue but it must be better than putting it back in the water.

 

[Rappey]

I found a thread on here that was discussing all the countries where you can be fined for scrubbing on the shoreline.

 

[fisherman]

Just some fishermen anti fouling on the beach, a passerby told them the tale. "Hope you didn't pressure wash here..."

Bit of info here
Protect, Collect, Dispose - Antifouling Best Practice | Parkstone Bay Marina

 

[Wansworth]

Spain requires boats to be cleaned in yards what happens to the waste water is anyone’s guess!

 

[Gwylan]

Belgium & The Netherlands, in theory, you have to cover the ground, hire or buy a special sander with vacuum. At the end you pay for a licensed person to take away the waste. This is the stuff on the ground and whatever is sucked up by the vacuum sander.
They of course will then dispose of it in-line with local regulations.
One of the reasons we went for CC.

We were lead to believe that something similar would happen in the UK. Not obvious when we returned

 

[pcatterall]

Is there any differentiation between washing off marine growth ( and a small?) amount of ( eroding anyway?) antifoul and sanding off all your antifoul?

 

[lw395]

As well as the run-off issue, pressure washers can cause problems with the mist they generate. You really don't want to be breathing in that kind of dirty water.
Mud and biological matter can be pretty bad for your lungs, even without any antifoul.
ISTR there were big warnings about this with off-road vehicles getting washed, a few years ago?
Some people are very careless about who or what is downwind of them.
Not sure what the HSE would say about this in a public place?

 

[James_Calvert]

In Salcombe washing off antifouling is banned except over the designated grids ashore.

So a lift out is required.

 

[Wansworth]

Yes a boatyard worker on the Hamble had a nasty illness from contamination whilst cleaning a boat,long time back

 

[Goldie]

Some years back there was talk about boats being sprayed off in filtered catchment areas only to prevent the contamination going back into the sea. I was led to believe it was going to happen as new yards had to install the equipment, but then it sort of fizzled out.

Mylor was one of the yards that did indeed install a filtered catchment, it’s right by the hoist but of course, this doesn’t prevent someone working on the beach. ‘Fisherman’ may know more, but I know that the oyster fishermen have complained in the past as in season, they store their unsold catch in the water nearby.

I sail out of Mylor and I’d be interested to know more!

 

[fisherman]

1992, I accepted some antifoul from a chap in the docks. Of course, turned out to be 10 litres of TBT. I didn't want to use it, and asked the council about disposal, is was a rigmarole, but they did it. Not allowed for me, but is allowed for ships laid up in the Fal.
TBT is detectable in concentrations the equivalent of 1 second in 35000 years. There is a lot of it at the bottom of the Bristol channel in drums, overboard or wreck.

 

[Lucky Duck]

I make that a concentration of 1 in 1,103,760,000,000 - are you sure about that?

 

[fisherman]

I make that a concentration of 1 in 1,103,760,000,000 - are you sure about that?

That's what was said at the time, TBT was used in all sorts of applications, wood treatment in houses, not a good idea, as well as pest control insecticide, antifoul. Then it was banned. Half life of 5 years.
It's a figure I remember, and why I wouldn't use it. I found one google result with 5 per billion, as an incident. There are reports of dioxins at 3.6 pptrillion.

 

[duncan99210]

Mylor Yacht Harbour has two coin in the slot pressure washers. One is at the top of the slip by the church, the other is on the drying out apron by the marina office. Neither of them has any sort of interceptors: that said, the washers aren’t all that powerful so there doesn’t seem to be much risk of active antifoul being washed off. However, the wash down pan by the boat hoist does have an interceptor but there‘s no way to keep the public back from the area when newly hauled boats are being washed down.

 

[Rappey]

There was talks about banning tbt in the 80's. Globally banned by 2008 ?
Seems you can still buy it in some caribbean chandlers ?
The only antifouling that truly worked but so bad for marine life