Fariline shaft log - replacement to support dripless shaft seal?

[EugeneR]

I am being quoted just over £4,000 to have my Fairline Phantom 38's shaft seals replaced with Tides Marine ones.

Of that, £504 is to have the shaft logs removed and machined to take the new seals. I am told that, a year or so after my boat was made in 2001/2, Fairline started supplying them with Tides' seals.

Does anyone know if it is possible to simply and easily replace the logs with those supplied by Fairline on the newer boats i.e. 2002/3 onwards?



The other part, of course, is the 32 hours' labour required - this includes dropping the (easily accessible) rudders and removing / refitting the shafts.

As alternative, I asked them how much to repack the existing seals - been quoted 4 hours' labour, is that normal?

Or am I being shafted?

 

[talltim]

I have the same set up on my Corniche and I am going to repack with GFO packing from the states which they reckon on various forums, is more or less fit and forget.

Repacking out of the water is a relatively easy DIY task, so you cold save the 4 hrs labour cost and use it elsewhere.

 

[aquapower]

I am being quoted just over £4,000 to have my Fairline Phantom 38's shaft seals replaced with Tides Marine ones.

Of that, £504 is to have the shaft logs removed and machined to take the new seals. I am told that, a year or so after my boat was made in 2001/2, Fairline started supplying them with Tides' seals.

Does anyone know if it is possible to simply and easily replace the logs with those supplied by Fairline on the newer boats i.e. 2002/3 onwards?

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The other part, of course, is the 32 hours' labour required - this includes dropping the (easily accessible) rudders and removing / refitting the shafts.

As alternative, I asked them how much to repack the existing seals - been quoted 4 hours' labour, is that normal?

Or am I being shafted?

Have the shaft logs been measured to see if the correct size is available as there are many sizes made and I have retro fitted a few now and never had to alter shaft log.
Its not a big job, also if you go ahead make sure you fit spare seals to shaft.

Just seen the picture now and can see why the logs needs altering, this is still easily done.

 

[superheat6k]

I am sure mine are Deep Sea Seals by Halyard Marine (Turbo 36), wouldn't think they are that much. Also a Volvo Penta Blackjack seal might fit. These slip over and clamp to the end of the stern tube / log.

£500 to skim off the spigots seems a bit steep also. I would say 2-3 hours work at most in a decent machine shop for the pair.

Let me know if you want the details of mine, I should be able to scan the leaflet. Mine are on 50mm shafts.

 

[volvopaul]

I am being quoted just over £4,000 to have my Fairline Phantom 38's shaft seals replaced with Tides Marine ones.

Of that, £504 is to have the shaft logs removed and machined to take the new seals. I am told that, a year or so after my boat was made in 2001/2, Fairline started supplying them with Tides' seals.

Does anyone know if it is possible to simply and easily replace the logs with those supplied by Fairline on the newer boats i.e. 2002/3 onwards?

View attachment 35556

The other part, of course, is the 32 hours' labour required - this includes dropping the (easily accessible) rudders and removing / refitting the shafts.

As alternative, I asked them how much to repack the existing seals - been quoted 4 hours' labour, is that normal?

Or am I being shafted?

Who on earth has quoted that much , the labour seems very excessive. As aquapower says the tides ones should go straight on to the existing logs without machining, perhaps you would pm me the company name.

My friend did his princess 40 last year it didn't cost any where near that much.

 

[aquapower]

Who on earth has quoted that much , the labour seems very excessive. As aquapower says the tides ones should go straight on to the existing logs without machining, perhaps you would pm me the company name.

My friend did his princess 40 last year it didn't cost any where near that much.

Paul, I said that before seeing the picture, it will need modification or replacement of the log but as you say that's an excessive amount, I would estimate 20 hours max and that would include work to remove/refit log. You should do this without removal of rudders.

Also steer clear of deep sea seals as they are not good when they fail!

 

[volvopaul]

Paul, I said that before seeing the picture, it will need modification or replacement of the log but as you say that's an excessive amount, I would estimate 20 hours max and that would include work to remove/refit log. You should do this without removal of rudders.

Also steer clear of deep sea seals as they are not good when they fail!

Tom are you sure it will need a mod as all you do is take the shaft coupling off to allow the front part of the log to slide off the shaft, turn down or cut off the lip on the compression part of the log adjuster, turn it round and bolt it back to the log with a gasket, then attach the tides neoprene tube.

That's just spoilt it for the 4k men, just told Eugene how to do it DIY style.



Shall we give him a quote though I won't have my hamble cottage after next Friday.

Just looked at the pic again, clamp couplings even easier to take off compared to taper couplings!!! Allen key and a chisel to spead the couplings, no problem.

 

[aquapower]

Tom are you sure it will need a mod as all you do is take the shaft coupling off to allow the front part of the log to slide off the shaft, turn down or cut off the lip on the compression part of the log adjuster, turn it round and bolt it back to the log with a gasket, then attach the tides neoprene tube.

That's just spoilt it for the 4k men, just told Eugene how to do it DIY style.



Shall we give him a quote though I won't have my hamble cottage after next Friday.

Just looked at the pic again, clamp couplings even easier to take off compared to taper couplings!!! Allen key and a chisel to spead the couplings, no problem.

I thought about that Paul, yes should be ok to put on with gasket although would probably be sensible to machine a register on the face to prevent any movement, I also noticed the coupling and much easier to remove than one with a taper. Think we should give a quote and sort it when we next meet up.
Good news about the boat, I was wondering how the trial went, don't suppose you will be long in replacing her.

 

[volvopaul]

I thought about that Paul, yes should be ok to put on with gasket although would probably be sensible to machine a register on the face to prevent any movement, I also noticed the coupling and much easier to remove than one with a taper. Think we should give a quote and sort it when we next meet up.
Good news about the boat, I was wondering how the trial went, don't suppose you will be long in replacing her.

The old crane seals just supplied as gasket for the turned around end, I've had them on both fairlines , never had a problem but yes a register face is a good idea but adds to the labour costs.