Tintin
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On the hook up the Fal/Helford................Oh happy days
+1, or off Trefusis, moving elsewhere when the wind is wrong.
Falmouth Liveabord Suggestions
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+1, or off Trefusis, moving elsewhere when the wind is wrong.
simon barefoot
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Sorry I missed your call, try me again tmrw, lived here most of my life, know whats going on around (a bit!) and now work with my partner in the arts industry. If you can I'd avoid 'the one by Lidls'. I dont want to be libelous but google boat fires in Falmouth...
Like I say, give me a ring and I can probably answer more questions easier than I can guess what you want to know.
Like I say, give me a ring and I can probably answer more questions easier than I can guess what you want to know.
floebs
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Comrade Red, I checked out the other side of the river on my last day before heading back north, wow, what a beautiful side of Falmouth!
So, more findings - incase anyone else is wanting similar info...
Yacht Haven, there's a small waiting list, but the prices are £192 pcm (winter) and £290 for the summer. He was really helpful and super friendly, and gave me the list of all the private moorings hirers too.
Couldnt 'break in' to Pendennis, so left that in favour of checking out the other side of the river.
Mylor Yacht Club, looks very cute, but sadly, three year waiting list for in the water.
And Islington Wharf, again, super friendly and really helpful - 90pence a foot, plus an extra tenner per week for liveaboard.
Then I had to hit the road and head back North!
Thank you all for all your help with where to look and who to contact. I couldnt have done it without you!!
floebs
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Hi Simon, thanks for this, I'm back North now as ran out of time, but will call you when I get back down. Really appreciate hearing local knowledge.
halcyon
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Comrade Red, I checked out the other side of the river on my last day before heading back north, wow, what a beautiful side of Falmouth!
It's not Falmouth this side of the river, and the natives are not friendly either.
Islington warf is okay, chap I know makes radio controlled racing yachts there, pubs are 5 minutes walk up into Penryn, with 2 chippies and small store also, traffic can be frustrating into Falmouth early and late. We are also due for very hi speed broadband, we are the roll out county so says the PM. When we get it, it will be half the nornal for the rest of the UK probably.
All the best in finding some where.
Brian
Sandyman
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floebs;3223178 Thank you all for all your help with where to look and who to contact. I couldnt have done it without you!! :D[/QUOTE said:More than welcome. Its what sailing & places like this are all about. Helping one-another by passing on experiences, skills & knowledge.
Enjoy your life aboard. Gotta be better than living in digs with a load of snotty nosed pluke faced students
Dont think you will be short of friends & visitors.
floebs
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Oops! I only have my 'getting to know Falmouth' trainer wheels on at the moment - slight disorientation is to be expected.
Thanks for all your input Brian, its really helpful knowing about internet and traffic and pubs, of course!
More than welcome. Its what sailing & places like this are all about. Helping one-another by passing on experiences, skills & knowledge.
Enjoy your life aboard. Gotta be better than living in digs with a load of snotty nosed pluke faced students
Dont think you will be short of friends & visitors.
Thanks Sandyman, yep, you have that right, I'd rather be able to throw them off the boat at the end of the night, than live with them full time!
V1701
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Re heating, my experience of Eberspachers is they don't like being run on red diesel and on low heat setting for extended periods through the winter, they coke up badly and spares are very expensive. You'll almost certainly need a mains charger permanently connected to run it. If you run it on white diesel and on full heat you'll maybe get away with little or no maintenance but that use doesn't suit liveaboard, you'd end up spending a fortune on diesel. If you've got mains electricity oil-filled rad is OK, that's what I have now on my Vega (27ft), a 1.5kw one. Not a fan heater as more leccy to run the fan itself and it goes cold when it switches off. If I was going to live on the hook I'd have a Refleks heater, see here. Lots of other options for diesel heating are available, Kuranda stock most of them. I've found solar to be better value for money than wind, if you don't yet have a wind genny I'd invest in more solar if you can reasonably fit them. Good luck with everything...
Other ones I've considered are the Origo Heatpal/Heatmate 5200 alcohol heaters, but they produce moisture and need ventilation (carbon monoxide), and tilley lamps (hot but noisy). The modern electric blankets are a godsend when it's really cold and you have mains electricity, though they use very little. I also put a woolly hat on before I'll put the heating on...
Other ones I've considered are the Origo Heatpal/Heatmate 5200 alcohol heaters, but they produce moisture and need ventilation (carbon monoxide), and tilley lamps (hot but noisy). The modern electric blankets are a godsend when it's really cold and you have mains electricity, though they use very little. I also put a woolly hat on before I'll put the heating on...
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floebs
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Wow djbreeze, what a wealth of heating info this is! - I hadnt really known all the alternatives and the ins and outs of each, so having this as a primer is really helpful!
The more I hear about the ebber, the more I'm turned off by it, and as I still need to connect all the parts onboard, I'm starting to think about pulling it out and starting from scratch with something else. Before I do that though, one last totally random question on the ebber front…. does anyone know how they (and if they) run on bio diesel?
I'd love a refleks (or similar) - but cant really work out where I might mount one onboard - as you probably already know space is pretty tight on a 27ft - so having something moveable, like an oil filled rad somehow seems more workable. Mine is a 1000w with a thermostat dial.
Thanks for the heads up on the solar versus wind - I still have to buy a wind genie, so maybe switching to buying another solar instead would be far better. I have room - although I might start to look like a floating dalek before too long!!
I had thought about a Tilly lamp - noisy yes, but somehow a nice noise! Does anybody know if burning paraffin/kerosene produces moisture? Or needs ventilation?
Maybe that is for another thread, but thought I would ask on the off chance!
Time to start looking at leccy blankets - seems that its the 'must have' item for living aboard!! Already have a vast selection of woolly hats!
Thanks again djbreeze, extremely helpful, and the links open up all kinds of options I didnt know about too!
ccscott49
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Wow djbreeze, what a wealth of heating info this is! - I hadnt really known all the alternatives and the ins and outs of each, so having this as a primer is really helpful!
The more I hear about the ebber, the more I'm turned off by it, and as I still need to connect all the parts onboard, I'm starting to think about pulling it out and starting from scratch with something else. Before I do that though, one last totally random question on the ebber front…. does anyone know how they (and if they) run on bio diesel?
I'd love a refleks (or similar) - but cant really work out where I might mount one onboard - as you probably already know space is pretty tight on a 27ft - so having something moveable, like an oil filled rad somehow seems more workable. Mine is a 1000w with a thermostat dial.
Thanks for the heads up on the solar versus wind - I still have to buy a wind genie, so maybe switching to buying another solar instead would be far better. I have room - although I might start to look like a floating dalek before too long!!
I had thought about a Tilly lamp - noisy yes, but somehow a nice noise! Does anybody know if burning paraffin/kerosene produces moisture? Or needs ventilation?
Maybe that is for another thread, but thought I would ask on the off chance!
Time to start looking at leccy blankets - seems that its the 'must have' item for living aboard!! Already have a vast selection of woolly hats!
Thanks again djbreeze, extremely helpful, and the links open up all kinds of options I didnt know about too!
You are begining to realise that without solid/diesel/paraffin heating, you are going to need mains leccy. I would investigate that for the winter at least. Any fuel like paraffin or diesel will produce moisture, nobody has yet mentioned gas, with a catalytic element fire, they are excellent heaters and dont give out lots of moisture. Gas is easily available, if a little expensive.
If you could manage a smallish solid fuel heater, that would be my bet for a heater all year round, as wood is easy to come by around Falmouth and anywhere really, chopping it into wee bits for a smallish heater will generate enough heat on its own!!
I would also mention if you have mains in winter, a low wattage slow cooker is also a godsend, you can prep, low cost meat and veg and have a hot healthy stew/thick soup to scoff after you come back from uni/pub.
With a Eber, if you run it on paraffin for a couple or three gallons, every month or so, it cleans up (carbon) a treat.
simon barefoot
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Wish I'd known how chap 'leccy blankets are. I've had too many evenings of being cold and thinking 'sod it, I'll just go to bed' only to find my bed is equally cold and clammy. I ended up sleeping in the saloon through the winter, theres little point heating that all night just to go down to a cold cabin. Luckily my sons cabin was the only one with virtually no outide 'walls', and therefore stayed reasonably well insulated.
Hot water bottles are possibly one of the best friends of the winter liveaboard.
But enough of winter moans, just wait til the summer and the sun, warmth, swimming, fishing, rowing the dinghy to the pub/work/uni, bbqs on the beach, even tho' I've gone back to living in a house for this winter, first spring day will see me back on board like a shot!
Hot water bottles are possibly one of the best friends of the winter liveaboard.
But enough of winter moans, just wait til the summer and the sun, warmth, swimming, fishing, rowing the dinghy to the pub/work/uni, bbqs on the beach, even tho' I've gone back to living in a house for this winter, first spring day will see me back on board like a shot!
fisherman
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Got to be solid fuel, surely? Wood or coal or both. Peat from Trago, as well as coal.
Downsman
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Some house dweller will be along in a minute to say solid fuel/wood will definitely kill you without fail...A woodstove has killed me every year for the past 15 years....
Like some politician said..ventilation ventilation ventilation..
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fisherman
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Sure thing. You can easily kill yourself with a badly fitted stove, especially in a modern draught proofed house. Not difficult to get it right. good quality stove, properly sealed, good flue ect ect
floebs
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ccscott49
yes, it would seem I'm leaning towards mains leccy, athough I'm not absolutely persuaded yet - still looking for alternatives!!! I did wonder about gas - whether I could somehow use the gas bottle that I have to run my little cooker - using it for heat too, but I think that might be asking for trouble. I'm liking the slow cooker idea - I have a three tier stove top steamer at the moment but a slow cooker would be the bees knees!
I need to look into that Eber tweak - I had thought that it drew diesel straight from the tank, clearly I still need to learn a bit about how the Eber actually works!!
floebs
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Brilliant 'heat' thread djbreeze, thank you for that - lots more reading ahead of me I can see! Yeah, I'm liking the idea of the slow cooker, hmm, and now I've googled the boaties frypan, one of those too!
Simon, I've been cussing the winter this week, pretty chilly up here, time to get the hottie AND the leccy blanket out! I'm also gradually going through the whole boat and insulating every 'wall' that I can with closed cell foam mats, and thermal underlay sheeting! She'll double as a sauna in the summer!!!
fisherman, I do like the idea of solid fuel, but not of putting a flue hole through the deck!! hmmm, its a tricky business this heating a small boat malarky!!
Some house dweller will be along in a minute to say solid fuel/wood will definitely kill you without fail...A woodstove has killed me every year for the past 15 years....
downsman, i'm not too keen on getting killed every year either
Seajet
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I'd think a solid fuel stove worth its' ( considerable ) weight in gold; dry heat.
One answer to the necessary hole in the deck / coachroof might be a dinghy buoyancy tank inspection hatch, to remove the flue and close it off in the summer if off for a sail ?
As I'm sure you know by now, gas cookers and the cruder heaters pump loads of water into the cabin atmosphere, the last thing you need.
When living aboard in a marina - with mains power - I found a simple electric fan heater great for quickly warming the cabin, and most have a built in thermostat to regulate themselves now.
A free standing mains electric 'oil filled radiator' heater like a DeLonghi Dragon would be excellent and more economical ( safer too ! ) for longer periods, they have 2 settings and a thermostat, around £50 I think.
Mentioning safety makes me think, do have some alarms, good extinguishers and an escape route even if it's a dinghy alongside, especially if alone.
I'm jealous, I think you'll have heaps of fun !
One answer to the necessary hole in the deck / coachroof might be a dinghy buoyancy tank inspection hatch, to remove the flue and close it off in the summer if off for a sail ?
As I'm sure you know by now, gas cookers and the cruder heaters pump loads of water into the cabin atmosphere, the last thing you need.
When living aboard in a marina - with mains power - I found a simple electric fan heater great for quickly warming the cabin, and most have a built in thermostat to regulate themselves now.
A free standing mains electric 'oil filled radiator' heater like a DeLonghi Dragon would be excellent and more economical ( safer too ! ) for longer periods, they have 2 settings and a thermostat, around £50 I think.
Mentioning safety makes me think, do have some alarms, good extinguishers and an escape route even if it's a dinghy alongside, especially if alone.
I'm jealous, I think you'll have heaps of fun !
ccscott49
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ccscott49
I'm liking the slow cooker idea - I have a three tier stove top steamer at the moment but a slow cooker would be the bees knees!
I need to look into that Eber tweak - I had thought that it drew diesel straight from the tank, clearly I still need to learn a bit about how the Eber actually works!!
The things I'm telling you are hard learned, I lived aboard in Dartmouth for two winters, and Holland for two, locked in fresh water ice! OK a much larger boat, but the principle is the same, gets just as cold on a bigun'. Solid fuel/diesel drip/paraffin etc is the only way to heat if no mains leccy available, that's just a fact I'm afraid. You will not be able to generate enough electricity to run any kind of leccy reliant heater. Summer, you are much better off, but sometimes it can get damn cold, so you need some way of heating or better insulation, beer doesnt work!! An overall cover in winter is also a godsend, keeps the damp down and rain off, helps to keep the boat warm. Hope you have a great time living aboard! Keep us posted!
jakeroyd
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Just following the heating part of this thread through.
Another heater to consider is Propex , sort of like an Eber but burns gas.
You need a fair sized gas bottle for winter use.
Another heater to consider is Propex , sort of like an Eber but burns gas.
You need a fair sized gas bottle for winter use.