Greg01
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I am researching an article on buying a used Fairline Targa 40 so would like to hear from any one who has owned or skippered one...both good and bad points.
Fairline Targa 40 skippers past and present your experiences wanted.
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admillington
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I have owned 2 Targa 40s. The first one was a second hand one that had a major hull problem following a trip back from the Channel Islands - this was replaced by Peters for a new one plus some cash which was perfect.
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-Andrew
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-Andrew
spannerman
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I skippered one from Bergen down to Stavanger a couple of weeks ago, nice boat well thought out, lots of useful stowage, engine room access good although the factory fitted engine belt covers look nice, they make servicing a bit of a pain.
Only thing I didn't like were the steep steps down into the saloon, nearly broke my neck first time down as I slipped on the top one and bounced down the rest, would get some anti slip or teak on them.
The girlfriend gave the galley and the heads the thumbs up especially the swivelling mirror/makeup storage, and the storage in the midcabin was good.
Would prefer a dual seat at the helm as the passengers seem a long way to port and aft of you.
It handled the sea well but got a bit lively in the swell being on outdrives so had to slow down a bit, but on the whole it drove well and was a good all round boat, but go for the bigger engines if poss this had KAD 43's if I remember and could use a bit more hp.
Only thing I didn't like were the steep steps down into the saloon, nearly broke my neck first time down as I slipped on the top one and bounced down the rest, would get some anti slip or teak on them.
The girlfriend gave the galley and the heads the thumbs up especially the swivelling mirror/makeup storage, and the storage in the midcabin was good.
Would prefer a dual seat at the helm as the passengers seem a long way to port and aft of you.
It handled the sea well but got a bit lively in the swell being on outdrives so had to slow down a bit, but on the whole it drove well and was a good all round boat, but go for the bigger engines if poss this had KAD 43's if I remember and could use a bit more hp.
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The first one was a second hand one that had a major hull problem following a trip back from the Channel Islands - this was replaced by Peters for a new one plus some cash which was perfect.
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Blimey! It must have been serious. Can you tell us what happened
The first one was a second hand one that had a major hull problem following a trip back from the Channel Islands - this was replaced by Peters for a new one plus some cash which was perfect.
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Blimey! It must have been serious. Can you tell us what happened
nicho
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A squadron 58 recently had to be replaced due to hull delamination!
rickp
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Re: Fairline Targa 40 skippers past and present your experiences wante
Shh! You're only supposed to mention Sealine hull problems on here!
Rick
Shh! You're only supposed to mention Sealine hull problems on here!
Rick
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Re: Fairline Targa 40 skippers past and present your experiences wante
What happens to these boats when taken back?
It it
"ooops, remove the re-usuable bits like engines and try again"
"get out the angle grinder and bond on a new hull"
"get out the fibreglass repair kit and patch up the existing hull"
First two options both sound expensive.
What happens to these boats when taken back?
It it
"ooops, remove the re-usuable bits like engines and try again"
"get out the angle grinder and bond on a new hull"
"get out the fibreglass repair kit and patch up the existing hull"
First two options both sound expensive.
JadedJim
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T40's. Much depends on the engine option as to how these boats perform. Original powered by KAD 300's, later option D6 315's, but by far the better have been the 350's which give superb pick-up speed. Bad prop/leg corrosion problems with early D6 duoprop outdrives. No real historic issues known with T40's and good attractive boat proven very popular. Big +'s were: Garage (takes 2.7 RIB) combined with good cockpit space and BBQ/Wet Bar area (much better than Princess V40). Big mistake for Fairline to drop the T40 from the range and the T34 for that matter.
Benny1
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We have had a 2002 model since new, with Kad 300's. Apart from the usual minor niggles when new she has been faultless.
Tender garages divide many, but we have found it very useful as it leeps the tender out of the way, clean and means that there is no faffing taking it up or down. The gargae also doen't impede that much onthe engine access as all the daily checks can be done quicky - there is a good 4 plus feet ahead of the engines for storage and to move around. Also, the large windscreen provides excellent shelter and she performs well in most seas.
Only real downsides are that she is a bit more tricky to berth than a shaftdrive boat, and if anything the L shaped passenger seat could do with being a bit higher to improve visibility when underway - but the upside of the seat is that 4 people can sit "with" the driver when underway and sheltered by the windscreen.
When I say faultless, she was until 2 weeks ago when one of the gearboxes in the leg blew itself and the leg to peices (cause unknown) - but that is easily (if expensively) fixed with a new leg and is not a problem with the boat or engine per se. As an aside, has anyone else had problems like this with a Volvo (DP-M) drive?
Tender garages divide many, but we have found it very useful as it leeps the tender out of the way, clean and means that there is no faffing taking it up or down. The gargae also doen't impede that much onthe engine access as all the daily checks can be done quicky - there is a good 4 plus feet ahead of the engines for storage and to move around. Also, the large windscreen provides excellent shelter and she performs well in most seas.
Only real downsides are that she is a bit more tricky to berth than a shaftdrive boat, and if anything the L shaped passenger seat could do with being a bit higher to improve visibility when underway - but the upside of the seat is that 4 people can sit "with" the driver when underway and sheltered by the windscreen.
When I say faultless, she was until 2 weeks ago when one of the gearboxes in the leg blew itself and the leg to peices (cause unknown) - but that is easily (if expensively) fixed with a new leg and is not a problem with the boat or engine per se. As an aside, has anyone else had problems like this with a Volvo (DP-M) drive?
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DP-G Drive?
Normally fairly robust, unless something (e.g. fishing line) damages the prop shaft seal, causing loss of or emulsification of the drive oil. There's no warning if this does happen, until drive goes bang or starts making unhappy whining noises.
dv.
Normally fairly robust, unless something (e.g. fishing line) damages the prop shaft seal, causing loss of or emulsification of the drive oil. There's no warning if this does happen, until drive goes bang or starts making unhappy whining noises.
dv.
jimmy_the_builder
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T40's. Much depends on the engine option as to how these boats perform. Original powered by KAD 300's, later option D6 315's, but by far the better have been the 350's which give superb pick-up speed. Bad prop/leg corrosion problems with early D6 duoprop outdrives. No real historic issues known with T40's and good attractive boat proven very popular. Big +'s were: Garage (takes 2.7 RIB) combined with good cockpit space and BBQ/Wet Bar area (much better than Princess V40). Big mistake for Fairline to drop the T40 from the range and the T34 for that matter.
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Not quite correct - the early ones had Kad44's.
Cheers
Jimmy
T40's. Much depends on the engine option as to how these boats perform. Original powered by KAD 300's, later option D6 315's, but by far the better have been the 350's which give superb pick-up speed. Bad prop/leg corrosion problems with early D6 duoprop outdrives. No real historic issues known with T40's and good attractive boat proven very popular. Big +'s were: Garage (takes 2.7 RIB) combined with good cockpit space and BBQ/Wet Bar area (much better than Princess V40). Big mistake for Fairline to drop the T40 from the range and the T34 for that matter.
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Not quite correct - the early ones had Kad44's.
Cheers
Jimmy
Benny1
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Not sure that is what happened as it dumped all the oil in one big go. When it went it went so violently that the cast casing was cracked all the way through and fell apart when it was dismantled.
There was a tooth of one of the gears missing but that could have happened as it disintegrated. All most odd and no real signs of internal corrosion either.
So far I think 4 mechanics, plus 3 marina staff have had a look and they have all said after much ooing and ahhing that they have never seen anything quite like it before.
Explanations have varied from the one you said re the seal going (but no real internal evidence of this) to we hit an object (in 60 feet of clear water!) such as a lobster pot - if we did it sank! - a seal or maybe a dolphin, but again no eviednce of this or blood afterwards, to we may had dinged a prop up to two years ago, causing a hairline crack which has led to a later catastrophic failure.
All most odd....
There was a tooth of one of the gears missing but that could have happened as it disintegrated. All most odd and no real signs of internal corrosion either.
So far I think 4 mechanics, plus 3 marina staff have had a look and they have all said after much ooing and ahhing that they have never seen anything quite like it before.
Explanations have varied from the one you said re the seal going (but no real internal evidence of this) to we hit an object (in 60 feet of clear water!) such as a lobster pot - if we did it sank! - a seal or maybe a dolphin, but again no eviednce of this or blood afterwards, to we may had dinged a prop up to two years ago, causing a hairline crack which has led to a later catastrophic failure.
All most odd....
Benny1
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Oh and it was the top part of the drive that disintegrated and cracked, not the bottom. Althopught the bottom had been buggered up too byt he top bit going so badly...
I am told that if the oil had been emulsifying because of a worn seal it would have been the bottom part that blew up? Is that the case?
I am told that if the oil had been emulsifying because of a worn seal it would have been the bottom part that blew up? Is that the case?
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Leaky seals normally kills the lower bearings & cages, not the upper drive unit.
It is, indeed, very odd. Possibly some sort of casting defect or bearing failure on the upper unit that has grown over time, but as you say, not something I have ever heard happening.
dv.
It is, indeed, very odd. Possibly some sort of casting defect or bearing failure on the upper unit that has grown over time, but as you say, not something I have ever heard happening.
dv.
