Fairline Squadron - Help to identify Missing Part

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Hi,
This is my first post so hopefully I’ve done it correct, if not I apologise now.

I’m hoping somebody will be able to answer this mystery, can anybody help identify what’s missing in this electrical box presuming its something where all the connectors seen in the photo's plug in to.

The photo is from a Squadron 62, Year 1999.

I’ve asked Fairline but no reply.

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P.Duck said:
Hi,
This is my first post so hopefully I’ve done it correct, if not I apologise now.

I’m hoping somebody will be able to answer this mystery, can anybody help identify what’s missing in this electrical box presuming its something where all the connectors seen in the photo's plug in to.

The photo is from a Squadron 62, Year 1999.

I’ve asked Fairline but no reply.

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Worry first about that bodged twin 240v socket. Whatever on earth that abomination is it needs sorting. If ifs got 240v on it it even more so.
 
guys, doubt it's 240V, most likely 24V judging from where it joins and meets the rest of the panel and the unprotected bus bar at the bottom...

to the OP, sorry no idea, judging from the writings on the plugs, must be some sort of controller/BMS type of thing missing there.
Does everything work in the boat?

ah, and welcome to ybw forum!

V.
 
vas said:
to the OP, sorry no idea
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+1, but I also can't get my head round that socket thing.
I mean, there are two conductors connecting the socket to the panel - awfully made, but at least that makes some sense.

What doesn't make any is that there's only one conductor attached to each plug.
And then they are then taped together, going back to the panel. :confused:

I can't remember to have ever seen a more meaningless electrical connection...
My notorious LBOK was a futuristic component in comparison! :D
 
Thanks for taking the time to reply, however if you could have helped answer the question that would be more useful than going off piste!
 
There is blue and brown going into the base of the dodgy socket.
My guess is that each switch/plug is breaking the blue and brown circuits, which makes no sense at all unless your name is “Heath Robinson”.
Wires look possibly 40A or so ... maybe they wouldn’t fit into one plug :eek::eek::eek:

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Yes the open section looks like mains voltage and the socket thing is being used as a pair of switches, he,s been breaking the circuits using the switches between the plugs .

So just selectively turn some 240 V on and use those switches ( carefully) to find out .

If it’s not 240 v then repeat with the none mains stuff .

The dangling tails marked on the LHS may be the reminants of a early Yacht remote control system , whereby stuff was controlled from a handy screen / box , that’s been since taken out because it was crap .

Velcro style patches and space LHS are a clue .
 
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As Petem said get in touch with Axon who manufactured the panels.
I can recall earlier 62's having endless problems with switch gear in that cabinet although your internals look different.
Barry Vipond at Axon should be able to point you in right direction. Sadly the Fairline technicians from that era have long moved on.
 
OK chaps a bit more info concerning this issue has come to light. The missing circuit board allows the breakers, etc to be operated remotely from the electrical panel at the helm. As you can see, the lights and meters in the red and turquoise boxes no longer work nor do the red / green buttons. Not the end of the world but a major PITA for the OP.

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Fairline (via Bates) have not been able to help as the components were originally supplied by AXON. AXON subcontracted the manufacture of the circuit board out to another company who are no longer trading. So we're following a couple of lines of enquiry for sourcing a replacement....

1) Coastal Rides
2) AXON to see if they have any of the original drawings and / or contact details for someone in the defunct company who might be able to help.

Failing the above, how easy would it be to reverse engineer something that would provide the same functionality? Is there any new tech that would make this job easier (Arduinos, etc)? And more importantly, are there any companies that would take this job on?

Pete
 
I think you just need to buy some 24v coil remote latching relays Pete. Loads of those around. I can’t see from the pic what circuits you’re trying to make up.

If op ever wants to sell that ICS navtex unit can I be first in line please? I love them. £750 to open the bidding :).
 
jfm said:
I think you just need to buy some 24v coil remote latching relays Pete. Loads of those around. I can’t see from the pic what circuits you’re trying to make up.
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Looking from my PC, I suspect it's

Batter Charger
Immersion
Galley Cooker?
Can't make out
A/C

Assuming no OEM board can be found, I suspect providing some basic functionality is relatively doable, i.e. get the relays wired up as you say and also getting the voltage meters working again. Getting those 25 or so little LED's working for each circuit might be too much effort / £.

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If op ever wants to sell that ICS navtex unit can I be first in line please? I love them. £750 to open the bidding :).
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I'll let him know!
 
I’d just get a series of din rail mounted relays Pete. Latching relays that switch 230v and have a 24v coil. The the buttons at helm station can easily be made to work, as well as the LEDs (or neons). Would be good if you could get the mating halves of those multi connectors from Axon. Then you could make it very oem. They will connect to the LEDs and the red green push switches.
 
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If op ever wants to sell that ICS navtex unit can I be first in line please? I love them.
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Is your love affair specific with that unit for some reason, or with that sort of vintage technology in general?
If the latter, I must have a Furuno 207 Meteofax+Navtex unit stored somewhere.
'Twas removed from my old boat just to free up space since I never used it, but it did work perfectly.
Arguably even better, with its much larger paper roll (A4 width)...
 
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